In reading a review of Andre Agassi autobiographyhe describes his use of crystal meth.
I don’t use any drugs except caffeine, and alcohol so I’m curious about meth. Is a crystal meth rush really this euphoric? Is it like super caffeine or what?
I have no idea (since I’ve never done any meth), but I don’t think it’s even in the same ballpark as caffeine. I’ve had mild euphoric sensations from prescriptions like Vicodin and Percoset, so it’s my guess that crystal meth is that x1000.
A feeling of euphoria is pure bliss. You feel like you’re on top of the world and everything is just fan-fuckin-tastic. It’s really easy to see why people get addicted to drugs that have this effect.
Caffeine is merely a stimulant, and a pretty mild one at that, and isn’t mind altering like hardcore drugs are.
Alcohol is a depressant, and can be very mind altering (of course), but has some really negative side-effects. Euphoria is definitely NOT in it’s arsenal.
So either of those drugs are not a good indicator of what meth might be like.
According to a documentary I saw on meth, food and sex are the two things that are most pleasurable to humans.
Meth is apparently 100 times greater at stimulating those pleasure centers, if you’re talking about brain chemicals.
Sounds like it would be interesting to try, but at the same time it doesn’t sound like you could walk away from it all that easily.
What? Yes, it is. Euphoria is one of the primary effects of ethanol intoxication.
I used to smoke crack in my stupider days and the type of high is very similar to meth, although I hear meth is stronger.
The way I describe it is: Within 2 seconds of inhaling a hit off a crack pipe, you feel like you’ve had the best massage of your life, your body feels calm and relaxed, you get this wave of explosive happiness; not like you’re so happy you’re laughly madly, just this inner brain wave of complete peace and contentment, you are so confident you can achieve anything; all your insecurities, body aches, worries wash away.
At least with crack, this feeling lasts about 5 minutes after the first hit and you spend several hours or days chasing that high with continual hits because that first hit is so addicting.
Then it’s the complete opposite when you’re trying to come down. You just wanna die. You are so wound up, you can’t relax, everything hurts, major anxiety, paranoia and you vow you’ll never smoke crack again; until your “friend” offers you some more a couple days later.
You lie to yourself and say, “Okay I’ll just do a couple hits and that’s it.” Then the maddening cycle repeats itself.
This is why I have resisted all of my friends’ suggestions that I try drugs.
Hmm… I can see that alcohol can give you a confidence boost and that loose and giddy “I love you man” feeling, but this isn’t the same sort of euphoric effect I get when I’m taking opiates. If meth is anything like the opiates I’ve experienced, then it’s a warm wave of pure joy and love that overwhelms you and colors your mood with rainbows and mint-green unicorns. YMMV.
In order: yes and not even close.
I think that’s more a measure of degree than anything else. I certainly wouldn’t claim that ethanol produces a euphoria on par with opiates or methamphetamine. I haven’t taken either, but I have read descriptions of the effects of both, and they are all as you described—intense and all-encompassing. A couple beers do not make me feel that way.
In an addiction documentary I saw, a meth addict said the first time he did crystal meth it caused him to have an orgasm.
That fits the ‘tidal wave of euphoria’ description in my book.
And it sounds like it was better than my first beer.
I’m firmly convinced that different people, whether for reasons of personality or reasons of personal biochemistry, react quite differently to the same drugs.
The main “uppers” don’t do much for me. Cocaine, crack, crystal meth… it’s kind of like supercoffee plus in the case of crack makes me short-tempered and anxious; in the case of cocaine, makes my nose go numb which is very unpleasant. BFD, is this what all the whopping and hollering is about? I’ll stick with a good cup of espresso roast coffee. I have no difficulty turning any of it down and I wouldn’t pay a dollar a pound for any of it.
The “downers” on the other hand, mm, trouble. Smoked a small quantity of heroin once, smeared onto rolling papers that were used for a joint. Ooh I could become way too fond of that stuff in a hurry. Even vicodin and codeine and percocet etc. It’s not a good sign when you catch yourself trying to convince yourself that your nasty cough is still lingering enough that a couple tablespoons of that codeine-laced cough syrup is necessary for you to be able to sleep, when in actuality you haven’t been coughing much all day.
Right. I hear what you’re saying. And maybe it’s a scale of the same sensation, but my guess is that alcohol is so weighted down with other effects, (mostly negative and unpleasant) that any euphoric effect is totally swamped and muddied (if not completely canceled out) by feelings of disorientation, incoordination and, well, wanting to hurl.
IME, the feeling of euphoria with opiates is pure, clean and bright. With alcohol, it’s dirty, unbalanced and counteracting.
I might consider letting myself get addicted to it if I have a fast terminal and painful cancer going on. get whacked off my ass and then OD on something peaceful and painless.
Other than that, no desire to try it.
Absolutely. There’s the “four types of drunks,” your own example, people with ADD being focused by stimulants; a high school friend of mine could drink the world under the table most days but on the day before her period she got drunk from looking at the bottle.
Yes Crystal Meth is like that. Basically every description of Ecstasy that I have read more accurately reflects how Meth feels, having done both many times I’ll say the high of meth is better than that of MDMA, but it’s also a lot more of a torturous comedown, which for me is worse than the high is good. But yeah meth fills your body with this really good feeling makes your senses super-acute and gives you the energy to dance all night or do whatever for a long period of time.
I think super-caffeine is a good description for it mostly.
I always preferred hardcore hallucinogens, the more reality obliterating the better. I had a long love affair with acid and had a couple waves of tripping pretty consistently so that I never truly came down for periods that can be measured in months and years.
I’ve tried meth a few times in my teens. It didn’t get me high the way pot made me feel high. Two days of not eating, not sleeping, building super Lego towns, and seeing what it had done to people I knew made me not want to do it anymore, thank God. I wouldn’t compare it to Ecstasy at all. That definitely made me euphoric. I tried crack on a few occasions and that definitely got me high right away, then want more right away. Cocaine and meth both did the same thing to me, not much. Not enough to want to do it anymore. I honestly get higher from pot than anything, which is a good thing for me.
But the important question is, Lorax, do you still build super Lego Towns as well as you used to?
I’ve found the meth high more intense, but the MDMA feeling much much better. Definitely more euphoric. Meth mostly made me very horny.
This I agree with. The meth comedown sucks. I needed a couple of days before I felt normal again. I don’t quite get meth addiction. I didn’t want to go anywhere near the stuff for weeks after doing it. I was definitely not a stay-awake-for-a-week type user.
I got a different feeling depending on the method I take it. It can be smoked, snorted, injected or eaten. I’ve never injected but I’ve done the rest. Eating it lasted the longest, but the euphoria was minimal. It kept me up for 3 days, but it didn’t really feel any different than caffeine. Snorting it provided a small rush of euphoria after a minute or so. It lasted for about half an hour then I came down. The energy boost lasted for most of the day. Smoking it felt the best, like an intense orgasm in my brain. The effects seemed to wear off quickest from smoking.
The part I hate the most is that after a while the energy boost wears off, and yet I still can’t fall asleep. I also couldn’t get erections, which sucked because I was very horny while I was on it. Not only that, but it actually seemed to shrink my dick, which was quite distressing to me, although it went back to normal afterwards.