Is a fat/ugly female less likely to get an abortion than a thin/pretty female

In My Humble Opinion
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Sorry for the crude title but there wasn’t enough room to type “overweight/unattractive vs. svelte/attractive”

Anyway, lets assume that each girl is equally pro-choice, unsure about the longterm stability of the relationship with the father and not at a point in their life where they are ready/wanting to have a child.

 I'm saying that the overweight female is less likely to get an abortion based on these thoughts. By being pregnant/having a child the overweight woman has a symbol and or proof to the world that she is sexually active and desirable, an issue that some (but not all) overweight women might have to deal with, sort of a social-sexual validation type thing. The overweight woman might also assume that her chances of finding a mate to have a child with in the future (when she does want one) might be very low so she should keep the one she has the potential to have now. 

 The attractive female in the same situation is more likely to get an abortion based on these thoughts. She may be afraid of diminishing her attractiveness and missing out on the many years of attention and compliments and then possibly losing out on snagging her alpha male of choice in the future (that she would want to have children with) due to the fact that she isn't as pretty and is now with child.

Your thoughts?

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Why do you think this? Is it based on personal observation or something?

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I’d guess that an attractive woman is statistically less likely because of possible vanity based worries about stretch marks, weight gain, vaginal tightness ( a stated motivation for women who get C-sections in Brazil ) and so on.

As for the unattractive woman, in a country with sperm banks and IVF, she can have a baby whenever she likes. I could see her, if she’s amoral enough having the child to suck child support payments out of the man and/or coerce him into marriage. Of course, an amoral pretty girl could do the same.

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I’m not entirely sure I want to climb aboard this train, as I think it is fated to derail quite spectacularly, but I would just like to say that I don’t think I’ve observed anything like the kind of reasoning and decisions the OP posits, at least not in people I considered normal and mentally stable.

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I don’t think I buy any of the above reasoning. Who would anyone have a kid just to prove that they’re sexually active. I mean a chick can get laid pretty much anytime they want, guys tend to be horndogs. I don’t see how having a kid would make her desirable either, in fact it will likely have the opposite effect.

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Thats good, because i wasn’t trying to sell you on anything. I was simply asking a question and providing my logic to support my opinion. I do however totally disagree with your idea that a “chick can get laid pretty much anytime.” Although i do not intend to cause the derailment that Mangetout predicted, i don’t think that every overweight ugly female (or pretty ones for that matter) can get laid whenever she wants, nor do i want to debate the concept. And the child isn’t what made the overweight girl desirable, it was what showed the world that she is/was sexually desirable to someone.

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I think your average chick could get laid pretty easily and without much effort, even your average overweight and/or ugly one. Now I’m not saying they will snag a good catch or anything though. So you think someone would carry a baby for nine months and raise the kid for 18 years or so just to prove to people who probably don’t care the she is or once was sexually desirable. Sorry I don’t agree.

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I guess my thought is you’d have to support the title question before bothering to decide whether the motivation has any plausibility.

The idea you might be less likely to have an abortion if you think this is the only chance you’ll have a child seems rather obvious. But I suspect things like economic factors and years of remaining fertility would swamp ‘attractiveness’ as a criteria in that decision matrix.

Otara

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People rack up enormous amounts debt that they will be stuck with for many years just for the sake providing the illusion of wealth to others, possibly even for the sake of finding someone to love. And if in the end i'm not destined to be loved or rich, i'd rather have some proof that shows that i was loved at one point.
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I can see how psychologically someone may want a child to prove their worth as a mother, a functioning member of society, but can’t see that many people would have a child to prove to the world that they had once had sex.

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Otara pretty much nailed it. You have provided no evidence to back up your position and then try to provide explanation for something which you haven’t even proven occurs.

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The post was more of a question that i didn’t think would get any/enough factual answers to last in GQ so i put it in here because of the possible debate it would cause. I’m not trying to convince people one way or another and the whole reason for my posting the question is in hopes of gaining some outside evidence to support my opinions or run across enough factual evidence/credible opinions to come up with new ones. That being said, your most helpful post in my quest for answers has been this one.

If you are a very hideous or exceptionally attractive female then your opinion would matter even more, otherwise your opinion on the topic has been noted and mine adjusted accordingly and i hope to hear from some more hideous/beautiful women in order to gain a more accurate opinion on this topic.

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My take is if a woman felt/is unattractive, may be unpopular and thus ‘unloved’ and having no one to ‘love’ she may decide to have a child to fill the void she can not fill socially.

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The OP is actually correct. All women are shallow and crazy and completely define themselves by how they imagine they are perceived by people with penises. So fat ugly women have babies so that people will think they used to be pretty (before the baby, which naturally left them physically ravaged), and thin pretty women have abortions so that people won’t think of them as “moms”, which is of course the libidinal kiss of death.

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Especially not when you can just get a T-shirt that says “BABY” with an arrow pointing downwards at a fraction of the cost of raising a child. I mean, if you’re fat enough, nobody will question it anyway.

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Am I the only person who thinks this thread would have been better off in IMHO?

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This thread would be great in IMHO!
Females: would you have an abortion? Are you fat/ugly or thin/pretty? How about your female friends and relatives?

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This is a reason often attributed to *young *girls, especially young black girls in low-income areas. Which is interesting when you note that young black girls actually test higher in self-esteem than young white girls, so I don’t know what to make of this reasoning.

I’m not saying the OP’s reasoning, or any of the others posited here are wrong and that no woman has ever kept/aborted a fetus for these reasons, but I will say I don’t think they are verifiable. Studies that look at the reasons women give for choosing an abortion tend to offer multiple choice answers like “financial concerns”, “don’t feel ready to be a mother” and “disruption of school/work” not these deep and disturbing psychological and sociological issues.

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Jesus, dude.

But in the interest of adding some actual data to this mental masturbation, here goes.

I’m pretty damn big, though pretty (although for many people fat seems to cancel pretty out). I was sexually active well before I was ready to have kids, and I now have one child and am pregnant.

Never, never, NEVER would the considerations you’re imagining have entered into my decision on abortion. The decision would have been based on finances, career path, general support available, and the situation with the fetus’s father.

I agree that someone who feels unloved and alone might (stupidly) decide to have a baby to fill those needs, but even if the cause of the loneliness is in part fatness, I don’t think such women would consider that as part of the calculus.

FWIW, I know a woman who is quite fat, probably medium attractive otherwise, and according to her sister, she has had at least seven abortions. It seems this is much more about her mental illness issues, lack of judgment and risk assessment ability, and desire not to have more responsibility than any attractiveness questions.

Finally, if you think people can’t find mates because they’re ugly, fat, weird-looking, poorly dressed, ignorant, loud, whatever, just go to the mall on a Saturday, sit on a bench and watch people walk by. You’ll see every kind of odd looking person, strolling by holding hands with (probably another odd looking) person.

Oh, and for fat girls in particular, there is an entire segment of the male population that is into that, and with the internet, it’s relatively easy to find someone to whom you are pleasing. When you are away from work, Google “big beautiful women” and you’ll see.

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Um…this thread would be better off on some other message board, one where people like to debate the causes of phenomena that nobody really believes occur, much less are able to prove.

Next topic: Why do you think the Sun rises in the West? Is it because of the hole in the ozone layer?