I doubt it. Instead, people would have twice the opportunity to find someone who actually WILL sleep with them.
Fagnostic. Gaytheism. Fuckin’ brilliant. I love you guys.
To answer the OP, I can’t really wrap my head around that one. On the other hand, like SCSimmons, I can’t really wrap my head around the idea that anyone would want to have sex with a man. We smell. We’ve got body hair. Wrinkly sacks. We think a hat and a breathmint is an acceptable substitute for personal grooming.*
We’re disgusting. shudder
ETA: *I suppose this stuff applies much more to straight men than gay ones. Hm.
Fuck! I was coming here to make that joke!
Mmmmaybe. Might also be that you’re not totally cool with stereotypes coupling up with non-stereotypes. That kinda hacks me too, and it has nothing to do with gayness or straightness.
It happens less often than you’d think, if that’s any consolation.
I’m getting a mixed message here.
So, Freejooky, what’s with all this denial? What does it say about your own sexuality?
I’m so far from Fagnostic that I guess I’m a Fagumentalist. I’m same sex oriented, always have been same sex oriented, have never once lusted for a woman (even when they were naked, attractive, and offering themselves), and am in fact so gay that in high school when I needed to kill an embarrassing ill-timed erection I used to visualize performing cunnilingus on a woman. I don’t discount the possibility that I could close my eyes and think of England if I absolutely had to beget an heir for the sake of the realm, but while my eyes were closed I’d see Orlando Bloom, Jake Gyllenhaal (sp?), Matthew McConnaughey (sp?) and a surfer twink who may or may not be Elijah Wood plunging like Joe the Plumber and sucking like a Hoover with an outboard motor (hope that wasn’t too graphic).
I am really curious about this… you feel a “lesbian vibe” but don’t really ‘feel’ lesbians exist, but you ‘know’ lesbians exist?
I would think that getting a “lesbian vibe” indicates some deeper acceptance of reality than you are willing to admit, for whatever reason.
Maybe I’m getting this backward, but it seems if you didn’t get this vibe from her, you have from others.
I very rarely ponder other people’s sexuality. After you get to a certain age, you are less surprised and less concerned with what other people do behind closed doors. The whole subject is kind of boring to me, with the exception of the political/legal side of GLBT issues.
When I was in my 20s, I went to a gay review at a club in Chicago. The fact that our server was a man in drag was novel for about 10 minutes. After that, I just thinking, “his blouse is so cute! I wonder where he got it.”
Sexual attraction makes no sense except that intellectually we can figure out that we have to feel sexual attraction or we’d die out after the current generation.
But if you think: well, why does a butt of the appropriate gender look good to me, what’s the answer? I mean, it does, but what is it about two round lumps of flesh and bone that looks good? And not only that but why is it that two very slightly differently shaped butts - one male and one female - provoke such completely different reactions in me? There is no satisfactory answer beyond “you’re built that way”.
We can only respond instinctively.
So if a person doesn’t respond instinctively to a particular thing, it’s not too hard to understand them not being able to get their head around why someone else does, particularly if it’s something that they don’t have much direct exposure to.
What? No love for Lesbetarianism?
Judging from most of the bisexuals I already know, I think my scenario is much more likely. Half the time, people think you’re icky because you do chicks and dudes; half the time, people whom you think are icky want you because you do chicks and dudes. It’s not a good situation, unless you’re unbearably sexy yourself.
Dude, I tried attending a Lesbetarian service once, but all I found were a bunch of straight guys looking around hopefully.
My boyfriend has a similar issue as the OP. Said boyfriend is 100% straight and was raised Catholic in a homophobic environment. He had to make a real effort to get past his own homophobia, but he did; still, he’s grossed out by gay sex. Now, we’re friends with another hetero couple. Let’s call the man XX and the woman XY. Both of them would be mistaken by most people for gay. XY is very butch and XX is very effeminate. In fact, their appearance and mannerisms match gay stereotypes so well that my boyfriend can’t really believe - on that gut level that the OP is talking about - that they have straight sex.
Sounds more like you’re Dykenostic, which is actually pretty common. Just ask your lesbian friend how many straight guys continue to hit on her or insist she will ‘change’ (and yes, there are plenty of gay-'til-grads but I imagine they’re fine figuring themselves out rather than being coaxed out of a gay relationship by a ‘real’ man).
When bisexuals date other bisexuals, this isn’t really the case, though, at least not IMBO. So if *everyone *was bisexual, we’d be a lot more laid back about it. If you have a bunch of bisexual people together, it’s pretty much taken as a given and nobody much cares unless they have self-hate problems. It’s the people who are straight or gay who are a) disgusted by it or b) lusting after the fantasy of a threesome. Bisexuals who want threesomes don’t have to be obnoxious about it, after all.
Apparently I just hang out with whiners in general, and I’m picking it up.
Why don’t girls/guys like Nice Guys/Girls?
I have more emotional empathy for lesbians, simply because I have no trouble looking at the female form and seeing that as an object of sexual desire… so it makes perfect sense to me to imagine that everyone feels that way.
I can’t really imagine getting turned on by a hairy male.
But I have no problem believing, at any level, that others are… so my answer to the question posed in the OP is ‘no’.
It’s hard for me to believe that women are turned on by us.
I agree, I’m not sure what kind of ‘gnostic’ that would be… femhetgnostic? That doesn’t sound right.