Yeah. That’s not the Radical Left. The violent group in America is the anarchists, and there are solo right wing nutjobs.
BLM and Antifa are throwing plastic water bottles.
First all all, we attacked the terrorist group that trained the bombers and even bragged that they orchestrated it.
Next, altho trumps incompetence has caused far more deaths, Hillary would still have had tens of thousands of dead.
And we are doing something, we are donating to Biden, and boosting his numbers up in the ratings. When Biden is elected, the nitemare will be over.
Would that fix everything? of course not. But if it bring us back to the Obama era, that’s pretty damn good.
Your solution seems to be run around, scream and shout. That doesn’t help at all.
And how is open civil war any better than that?
We need to support the pillars of our democracy and our civilization. Violence will only undercut them, and the other side is doing enough of that already.
You want to fix these problems, work within the system, that’s the only way to make things better. If the system breaks, we all suffer.
The number of Americans killed or even severely discomfited by radicals of any stripe are a bare handful. Not to be diminished, for sure, the harm that radicalism has done, but adding to it will only increase the number of Americans on all sides killed in the streets.
We get free and fair elections this November, we work with the government that is elected to continue to create a more perfect union.
If we do not have free and fair elections this November, then go ahead and go crazy, there will not be much more damage you can do.
This isn’t going to be the end of America. But what it might be is a tipping point towards a very different America, for good or bad. And whether you are left or right, don’t count on it going the way you want it to go, no matter who wins the election. There are lots of scenarios where Biden wins in 2020, and the Republicans sweep the House and Senate in 2022.
Yes, if the Republicans don’t think that they are in a position to end democracy yet, they will instead do as much damage to the country as possible on the way out so that they can complain about how the Democrats haven’t fixed it yet.
Worked in 2010.
Both sides are aware that they have undiluted powers of incarceration, surveillance and forfeiture. That has already been set in motion, creeping forward at least since Reagan. It mattters not which side finds itself in a position to take it and run with it.
In those days, the 80s, the left saw these things as threats. Now the left sees them as tool.
I’ll need the address. You can PM it.
You won’t shoot my headlight out when I drive up, will you?
I will come in peace. I like kids, cats, dogs, practical jokes. I can guarantee that I will lose at Scrabble and Trivial Pursuit. I don’t do liver or green olives. I don’t do snakes either but I’m loath to tell you that because of the whole practical joke thing.
No. America has always been “on the verge of collapse,” as far back as I can remember. Stuff and nonsense. This November will be the start of a course correction.
Not to be flippant, but 99% of America is still not directly affected - that is, not being burned, shot at, looted, beaten, etc. We are still, by every reasonable measure, still an intact nation that is humming along. Harmed, for sure, but still intact.
As long as you don’t count the little matter of the global pandemic.
The pandemic is the fault of no human being and would have happened regardless of what was happening politically or who was in charge.
However, the current crew had a terrible response to it, or rather, non-response, and that IS their fault.
The Republicans are doing things that could potentially take decades to fix, if it can be fixed at all – a lot of us don’t have decades to wait around for voters to get their collective shit together and figure out how a democracy should work. Deliberately tampering with the census and confidence in voting isn’t something that just gets worked out with a new administration; it fundamentally destroys confidence in the process by which we elect leaders and govern ourselves, which makes it difficult to do the difficult legwork that it would take to undo the incompetence of the last few years, which itself is by design.
That may be you, but this is not true for the millions of people who are in danger of losing their abodes. What affects the millions of people you never see…will eventually catch up with you, and all of us.
Wow, so you think most of us either live in a shithole or glittering mansion? And you think S America is too far to experience any fallout from the U S disintegrating too?
So everything is just hunky dory in Chile right now, no protests no environmental degradation and an abundance of love and gratitude for expats from the USA.
Sounds like paradise pack your bags and go.have a care and take Broomstick with you.
Yeah, we’re fucked. Civil war, here we come…
Though I am on record as to where the blame for the fumbling of the pandemic should be focused, that was not the point I was making.
@Velocity was claiming that 99% of America is not affected. He then goes on to state a list of things that we are not affected by, and seemed to not feel the need to include the pandemic. I feel otherwise.
I’m not sure how you get that from the words that he actually used.
“I’m not sure if you’ve looked around the US but unless you live in a shit hole housing is crazy expensive here. “
I definitely do not live In a shithole neither is it “ crazy expensive” which in my area would be a glittering mansion
Ymmv
Depends on how you define crazy expensive.
I consider a half million dollar house to be crazy expensive, and it is not a glittering mansion.
Even a house valued at a couple million is still not a mansion, though I suppose they could probably afford some glitter.
If your definition of “crazy expensive” starts in the 10’s of millions range, then sure, those are probably going to be mansions, and depending on the gaudiness of the owners, maybe even glittering.
However, in the context of the poster you were replying to, where they were comparing the sale price of their house to the cost of living in a South American country, the high six to low seven figure range would have been a far more applicable position to assume that they are taking.
I wish it were just alarmist nonsense, but American politics is in a state of corruption when Republicans have power and paralyzed for the brief period of time it retakes power.
The How to Boil a Frog parable comes to mind.