Could you provide a link that has words
Attached. Thank you.
And yet people are in jail in your country for organizing political protests. Requiring government approval of gatherings of more than 10 people is a de facto ban on political protests, because the government can simply decline to give approval to groups it doesn’t like.
Unless there are pro-Al Sisi demonstrators in jail too…but I suspect there aren’t.
Look, nobody here is supporting the MB. We’re just wondering what the difference is between Sissi and Mubarak, other than the fact that Sissi is *currently *more popular.
Oh, I’m quite sure you’re right about this.
You really are clueless as to what this looks like, aren’t you? A picture of our beloved generalissimo hanging from every single lamppost on the highway? Here’s a hint: it sure isn’t democracy.
And we have people on this board arguing that the US is becoming a Banana Republic…
More an Apple Republic, really. Too cold to grow bananas over a lot of the US.
Hipster republic? I’m flexible.
McCain and Obama are mostly at odds in every foreign policy matter:
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The Republicans have been having trouble deciding on a consistent policy dealing with the historic events in Egypt. That is because they are driven by a blame-Obama-first philosophy and it is not easy figuring out what blame helps them the most.
Yahoo answers? Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing…
Can you stop laughing long enough to explain what is wrong with the answer?
And is it impossible that information cannot be correct or pertinent to the discussion because of the site where the information is posted.
Do you declare that McCain and Obama where on the same page on whether to cut off all aid to Egypt after the military tossed the Islamist first president in the slammer?
What is your point?
Yahoo answers cannot be used a cite. It’s just some anonymous person posting on the internet.
McCain wanted to suspend, not “end”, aid to Egypt not because he doesn’t “want the US to be seen as opposing Democracy by continuing aid”, but because he thinks that is the law, as do I. He’s on record as saying he doesn’t want to suspend aid, but feels we must in order to be compliant with the law.
And supporting Morsi isn’t blanket support of “the Muslim Brotherhood”. It’s support of the democratically elected president of Egypt.
I am trying to provide some background information for Marmite Lover on US domestic politics and how that relates to events in Egypt. John Mace can only laugh and scoff because of a link,
This is about what Obama has to deal with from the opposition here at home. Perhaps the link to this report are up to Mace’s elevated standards:
See my previous post. McCain was on the same page with Rand Paul not Obama.
Obama avoided calling the take-over as a coup. As long as elections were coming and they are coming.
Just trying to give an Egyptian living thorough it some background on why some actions are taken and that all that is seen from Egypt looking at us may not always be the truest perspective.
That’s all.
I posted that yahoo answer as a ‘quote’ for an example.
This will not be accomplished by posting nonsense.
Your cite is stupid and wrong. Obama is not a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The person who wrote your cite is lying.
If you want to provide background information, it would be better to provide true information, not this garbage.
What Obama has to deal with is the fact that he is breaking the law by continuing to provide aid to Egypt.
Egypt had a military coup d’état. Ergo, the US is legally prohibited from providing foreign assistance to her.
Let’s see a cite that a coup is not a coup if the military promises some rigged elections later.
Regards,
Shodan
You best learn how to read before calling something nonsense.
Here’s the ‘cite’ you have called nonsense by erroneously thinking they were talking about Obama:
!!“Here’s the catch - that Democratically elected president was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. So in effect, McCain and Paul are stopping US aid to Egypt because the Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown.”!!
They were talking about Morsi not Obama. Will you admit your error?
OK - my apologies for misunderstanding you.
You claimed your post was about “what Obama has to deal with from the opposition here at home”. What Obama has to deal with is that he is trying to pretend that there wasn’t a military coup in Egypt. Which there was. So he should not be continuing to send them aid, because US law says that the US should not send aid to a country which has had a military coup. Which Egypt has had.
You apparently think the coup doesn’t count as a coup (which is what happened in Egypt) if they claim they will have elections later. Nothing in US law says that a coup isn’t a coup if the military claims they will have elections later, especially not if they are going to rig elections the way they rigged the referendum.
So, again, my apologies for calling your cite wrong and stupid. I should have referred to the rest of your post as wrong and stupid.
I regret the error.
Regards,
Shodan
Apology accepted. I have not viewed the coup
As a coup for two main reasons. The first was that Mubarak was overthrown and there was no coup talk when the military had a strong role in that. Secondly the fact that Morsi won in an election it was perhaps way to early to call his government an established democracy. Morsi did not really ever gain control of the power of governing which of course is law enforcement and the military.
Morsi was still in the process of trying to consolidate power by installing Islamists into institutions where they were not welcomed.
While technicslly a coup the fair and wise use of that concept in revolutionary Egypt should not and need not apply because of extraordinary circumstances as to why Morsi deserved and needed to be taken down.
Mubarak resigned-- he was not “overthrown”. Morsi was forcibly removed from office.
Shodan, you realize that stopping military aid to Egypt would screw Israel over big time, right?
I don’t want the Islamic fanatics in charge of Egypt any more than you do, but the law says what it says. And I saw what happened to Iran, when the US backed a secular tyrant over a popular, Islamic tyrant.
And this notion of “Egyptians can vote for whoever they want as long as it is someone I want” just doesn’t work.
Yes, I realize it sucks. And I am on the other side of the world, and more or less safe from Islamic terrorism and at no risk of being attacked by my neighbors (again).
Regards,
Shodan
I just don’t see how supporting Mubarak - who inherited from Sadat, who inherited from Nasser, who seized power via military coup - is any better than supporting Sissi. You guys supported one illegitimate military dictator for decades. Why not support another one?