Is "Enterprise" relying on T' Pol's breasts to save the show a bad thing?

I’m torn. I like seeing the shapely T’ Pol, but the half dressed Vulcan scenarios are coming off as a bit too forced lately, to the point I feel kind of cheap afterward, and the new show of the third season I saw this evening pegs a new level on the pandameter.

Even if her silicone breasts can save the show… should they?

Yes. Absolutely yes.

Actually, I’m all for an adult version to be released on DVD.

If Jo Blalock couldn’t act or the character was badly written, I’d be against it, but T’Pol is funny as hell and a great contrast to the human crew members, plus Blalock plays the hell out of the role, so I’m all for the accompanying eye candy.

It’s a fantastic show, the best Trek since DS9, so I hope more people start watching it, no matter what it takes.

It’s a mistake, because it doesn’t bring in female viewers. The only way to get the ratings they need is to bring in lots of viewers. They’re banking everything on a ploy that only appeals to half the audience. They need more. Like, you know, good stories. New life, new civilizations, all that jazz.

I don’t find her attractive. She’s just too much, and they emphasise that in a very non-Vulcan way.

I felt the same as Seven of Nine. It’s just an excuse for T&A to make the geeks drool.

Using your casts beauty as a hook to get viewers who then stay because of the story is good (arguably good examples: Buffy, Alias). It when there is nothing else that it becomes a problem (I still have hope for Enterprise*)

Brian
*assuming I get to watch it. My UPN station broadcasts in name only with a 25 uW transmitter. The local Fox station carried seasons 1 & 2 (& voyager), but as far as I can tell not season 3.

“Spring Break: Vulcans Gone Wild!”

Pffft.

It wouldn’t be bad if they could think of decent excuses to show 'em, but the panda is about as ham-fisted and poorly written as anything else on the show.

Example: there was no reason for her to disrobe during the “vulcanopressure” scene. And evenm if there was (and was thus moderately comfortable being topless around Trip), then she wouldn’t have cupped her breasts like that. But alas, if she was straight-up topless or hiding herself in a more plausible manner, they couldn’t have filmed the maximum allowable boobage.

Example: Hoshi falls through a hole while crawling around in the air ducts. It catches her shirt in just the right place to totally rip it off. Oh, and she wasn’t wearing a bra.

Come on! If you insist on showing it, at least think of good reasons why! Have stuff happen in the shower. State that Vulcans have little to no nudity taboo, per se, and sleep/meditate in the nude. Hell, low cut off-duty outfits and forcing them to run around in underwearwould be acceptable, but don’t insult my intelligence. Or I know, maybe someone could have sex!

It doesn’t help taht I don’t really find T’pol that attractive. Hoshi’s better, but even harder to skank up, due to her character.

Panda is fine, but it won’t make or break the show. We want good story telling.

And hot monkey sex.

Yes. I mean, they’re nice breasts and all, but nice enough to save a boring POS show like Enterprise? I don’t think so.

I don’t care if they save the show, I’m waiting for mid 3rd season when they get desperate and turn it into the T’Pol and Hoshi Panda Hour.

Damn it! You can’t have a thread title like this with no links to pictures!

Well. Season 2 is just starting transmission on terrestrial channels in the UK (literally so, the end-of-season-one recap is on screen as I type) … so, when do I get to find out what all these “panda” references are about?

Uh, panda?

panda = pandering to… well you know.

We should really have an Enterprise FAQ.

Panda refers to Berman and Braga pandering to the geeky sex-starved fanboy in all Trekkies by giving us gratuitous scenes with Naked Hoshi, Trip’s Undies, and Vulcan Massage Techniques.

Will this do? :smiley:

(link goes to Maxim cover, no nudity)

I tune in to Star Trek to look at boobs the same way I watch porno for the plot and characterization.

Look, if I want to see boobs, I’ve got the internet. If I’m watching an hour-long drama, I want to see good characters in good stories. If they’re naked, that’s great. But if the plot’s boring and the acting sucks, I might as well be watching Butt Sluts 2.

Well… if you insist -

You did an adequate job with the Vulcupressure last time Trip. Will you assist me again? I shall reciprocate.

The Andorian slave keeper has stolen my clothing Captain.

Well… if you insist -

You did an adequate job with the Vulcupressure last time Trip. Will you assist me again? I shall reciprocate.

The Andorian slave keeper has stolen my clothing Captain.