Is it time to start planning for 4 more years of Trump?

Actually, that’s exactly what I did. Accompanied by a sad shaking of the head and a rolling of the eyes. I certainly didn’t try to impeach him or call him an “illegitimate President.”

Did you try and spread a racist, evidence-free conspiracy theory about him, like Trump did? If not, were you okay with Trump doing this for years?

Don’t you want to know when I stopped beating my wife, too?

Andy’s question was legitimate. You may have been the Platonic ideal of democratic loyal opposition, but if you think that was universal - or even common - among the right, you are mistaken.

Simple question. If you don’t want to answer, you don’t have to, but I didn’t think it was a difficult question at all.

I agree. But that shouldn’t be much comfort. You should read this:

This was before any ‘convention bounce’ for Trump, and probably before the Wisconsin riots showed up in the polling.

That article breaks down all the ‘swing’ states and looks at where they are relative to 2016.

Of the swing states that moved ‘sharply’ right (Iowa, Ohio, Main, and Michigan), only Michigan is currently favoring the Democrats, but it’s in the margin of error. Maine split last time and has moved slightly left again to favor Democrats, but within the margin of error.

Of the states that moved ‘slightly’ right in 2016 (Minnesota, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Wisconsin), all still; slightly favor Republicans, but all are in the margin of error.

The Republican states that shifted to the left in 2016 have all shifted back to the right (Arizona, Georgia, Texas).

Any bets which direction Wisconsin has gone since then? And any doubt as to why Biden is now campaigning in Pennsylvania, which Democrats had previously thought was a safe state?

It’s not about comfort, and your interpretation of Silver’s model has so far been fanciful. I’ve kept up to date daily on his model and website – often multiple times a day. Anything beyond the exact words of Silver, or the exact reports of his model, is a wild guess. Silver has said explicitly that we have no idea which way the election is trending at this moment, or which way the protests and reactions are likely to go as far as polling. If you followed his Twitter feed, you’d have seen this. Trump campaign officials have explicitly said that they want violence and chaos, and Biden’s campaign has wisely used those words in attacks against Trump. Maybe things will swing towards Biden, or maybe not. But you’re just guessing with everything you’re saying beyond the exact model and words of Silver.

Number one, you are reading the charts on that page incorrectly. The zero on each chart represents the national average which was D+2 in 2016 and is looking to be even farther D leaning in 2020 based on current polling. Most of the states that you said favor Republicans do not, they are slightly more red than the national average, but still favor the Democrats.

Number two, the following quoted statement is total nonsense. No one, at any point, has been treating PA as safely blue. That’s bonkers.

It’s impossible to know for sure now that we can’t interview them. But as an, ahem, history major graduate of a school that Donald Trump himself has said only admits you if a super genius (and was known as the basement of the Ivy League in my day), I will give my views.

The founding generation did have the idea that society changes, and of progress.

Some (notably our Pennsylvanians!) favored electing the President by popular vote. This would have incentivized adoption of a wide franchise, since your state will lose influence if it turns away people from the polls. I think someone like Franklin – and others – were clever enough to realize the implications for both women’s rights and African American rights. Electing high leaders by direct popular vote was a minority view, but didn’t make you an outcast.

Demagogues were the Founding Fathers’ greatest fear. Increasing rights for women and Black people, if a fear, was a lesser one.

Some would have seen rights for indigenous people as more of a threat than letting women or Black people vote. But if you explained to a George Washington or Robert Morris that native people would become only a small portion of the population by the twentieth century, they might have allowed that this not need not be a barrier to voting and office holding. What they never would have allowed is that the passage of time could reduce the risks of a demagogue reaching high office.

I don’t think we’re watching the same video. RitterSport posted it from The Hill of Biden in Pittsburgh.

So provide a link to the one you’re watching, please. Otherwise the time you gave is useless,-- and apparently we don’t even know what speech you’re talking about.

The founders intended for the states to choose trustworthy and fair electors, to be freely empowered to vote as they want, to elect the President.

They also intended for the Senate to be filled by persons held in high regard by the members of the state governments, and that those people would carefully police the President.

We’ve gotten rid of the steps that were put in place to keep things sane. Moving towards the voice of the people was a move towards factionalism and insanity.

To be fair, some of that movement was to try and curtail corruption and back room dealing.

It didn’t work and wasn’t the right adjustment to make to fix that.

I always thought that the better compromise should have been that one senator was elected by the people of the state, the other by the legislature.

But at the time of the amendment, most states were having their senators elected by popular vote anyway.

It is always a hard time balancing the interests of the people against those who seek power.

Any commentary on the piece you would like to offer, or is this just a drive-by?

Anyway, I don’t need to read it, as the byline that comes up in the preview itself is a falsehood, so I doubt that there is any value to the rest.

As the one who chose to share this, does it actually make any valid points, or just continue with the same false narrative it starts with?

FWIW, I think Trump has probably had his best 7-10 stretch in a while in terms of polling and media coverage. Despite his potentially disastrous quotes, he’s managed to shift focus away from his failures in responding to the coronavirus, which is only hope. Still, he’s behind 6.3 percentage points according to the RCP average. I won’t start worrying about his electoral problem until we get under 5%. If that happens, then yeah, time to hit the panic button.

Wow. Way out on a limb, there, isn’t he? This makes me sad. So sad.

Well, he came out harder against rioting and looting than the current president did against vigilante justice carried out by kids with rifles, at least.

So very sad…