Which incidents?
Ninjad!
Go on. The main inciting incident (George Floyd) was absolutely true, as were many of the other examples. What’s the bad example that you believe wrongly motivated a significant number of people?
Again, let’s hear it. I’m dubious because if there are real examples of crazy laws, why did the RW newpapers never give those examples? To this day they fail to give any and have to lie about things like “bendy bananas”.
Also I feel you’re missing the point here. Because the point was that people citing a problem in a poll does not mean the problem is real.
Whether in the case of Euro laws the public was actually right by coincidence doesn’t refute that, unless you’re suggesting that kind of luck always happens.
Sports rules are up to the sporting bodies but it’s madness if a handful of people competing is the only basis for society going too far. In terms of the treatment of children, what do you mean?
Go on. The main inciting incident (George Floyd) was absolutely true, as were many of the other examples. What are the bad example(s) that you believe wrongly motivated a significant number of people?
ETA: double ninjad
Again, let’s hear it. I’m dubious because if there are real examples of crazy laws, why did the RW newpapers never give those examples? To this day they fail to give any, and have to lie about things like “bendy bananas” and kippers.
Also I feel you’re missing the point here. Because the point was that a majority of people citing a problem in a poll does not mean the problem is real. Whether in the case of Euro laws the public was actually right by coincidence doesn’t refute that, unless you’re suggesting that kind of luck always happens?
Sports rules are up to the sporting bodies and it’s madness if a handful of people competing is the only basis for “society going too far”. In terms of the treatment of children, what do you mean?
Some health disparities are surely avoidable, you haven’t even begun to demonstrate that all are.
Don’t be silly, no one is doing peer-reviewed research to try and demonstrate racism against the majority white population. No one thinks that is a plausible explanation.
I already explained what I meant. Lifestyle affects health. Your link said that one reason for fewer kidney transplants in Maori patients was a higher rate of obesity. AFAIK this is a common problem in Pacific Islanders; it’s not the fault of the health service, or even the NZ government. So what do you want to do? Change the criteria? That would put kidney donors at risk.
The government can advise people to change their diets, and to exercise more, but they can’t or at least shouldn’t force anyone to follow that advice.
And culture affects lifestyle. AFAIK living in a multi-generational household was a risk factor for COVID infection. Does that mean the government should try to discourage it? Should they pressure everyone to adopt the optimum diet, regardless of what they traditionally ate?
Genuine multiculturalism is going to lead to different outcomes. So either you accept that, or you try and force everyone to live the same way and have the same values and priorities. 
Where do you get the Democrats stabbing supporters in the back?
Umm, no, currently the Republicans are.
Every time they abandon their supporters in an attempt to curry favor with the Right, something they are notorious for.
No, the Democrats are. A lot of people are voting for the Republicans because Trump promises to come in a tear it all down. We all know, even a lot of his supporters know, Trump is a liar who doesn’t stand for anything except for Trump, but he at least promises he’s going to burn it all to the ground.
How did you get the Democrats are abandoning their followers? Those polls dont show party affiliation afaik.
Trans accommodations that “have gone too far” will likely cite Drag Queen storytimes and pushing the gay/trans agenda on children by indoctrinating them, aka “grooming”. Porn books for children, i.e. any book that talks about same sex marriage or teens exploring ideas about sexual and gender identity other than boys groping girls and making out at Jr high parties, aka “seven minutes in heaven”.
It’s okay if it’s cis-het teen sexual exploration - that’s “natural”.
Probably if forced to name something that directly affected them, it would be “using the wrong pronouns”, i.e. not just someone stating pronouns, but having to address someone by pronouns and descriptions they think are wrong.
I think the highlights for “too far” are acknowledging them and allowing them their identity.
Basically, all the right-wing gibberish.
Not from that article, from a general perspective on centrist Dems leading the party.
And, literally, God forbid they learn the difference between drag and trans.
So- you got nothing then? Are, you are not the poster I asked the question of, are you?
what I love is some MAGAs ranting about “curry in the White House” but now it’s in VP house
They know the difference. The conflation was deliberately instigated by Christopher Rufo (who also led the smear campaign against CRT) in order to use things like Drag Queen Story Hour to insinuate that trans people were child molesters. He even suggested using the term “trans stripper” instead of “drag queen” in order to increase the implied peril to children.
Why guess, when you can look at data?
The issues where people in general disagree with the current rules on sex and gender are:
- They don’t think ‘trans women are women’ is actually true
- They don’t think male people should be in female sports
- They don’t think kids should get hormones
- They don’t think kids should be taught the minority view on sex and gender.
Nothing about drag queens, or “porn is okay for kids if it’s straight porn” (something I’ve never heard anyone say in real life)
No, there will never be a time to “tone down the wokeness”; that’s in our hearts and not going away. What I think, is that it’s time to address the repressive thugs that will be the gatekeepers, and the dumbasses that follow them.
Keep the true, kindness in your heart; we can still care and believe, while still making shrewd political statements and actions.
We don’t have to give up our ideals, but it seems to me we should decide if it’s more important to maintain our image, or “seemingly” adapt so we live to fight another day.
So protests across the nation about library storytime programs don’t count as data?
Of course you’ve never heard anyone say that, because they don’t define it as porn.
A story about a preteen girl dreaming about kissing an adult man is just natural growing up, but a story about a teenage boy dreaming about kissing another boy is porn. That’s the double standard I was illuminating by my choice of words.
When people can be warned, issued a citation or banned for using formerly innocent and neutral words that are now “hate speech”, it gives a somewhat different perspective on just who the repressive thugs are.
You may be correct, but I’ll need an example of what you’re thinking about here.
I mean that since no one can change our values, our time would be better spent concentrating on the shit show in Washington. We can still embrace/ fight for the oppressed (I guess that’s all of us, now), but our public fight should be about the nastiness and corruption that everyone is about to face.