This is merely tangential. Our debate is about what men prefer, not what women prefer.
No, it is not. You made the assertion that board was not a representative sample. I never asserted that it was. I admit the results would be unscientific, but not wholly useless.
Where exactly did I do that? Cite?
Actually, the debate is about the evolutionary reasons behind male and female preferences for mates, and since [url=http://my.dreamwiz.com/korean93/Jaryosil/Evolution/chosing.htm]females choose their mates**, not males, it is even more germane. See, I can provide cites for my assertions, can you?
Right here. When asked to give evidence for several claims that you made, you responded:
That quote is referring specifically to the matter about men’s initial sexual experiences, not to anything else. That matter is in fact inconsequential whichever way it is resolved, or isn’t.
You quote out of context.
This guy is one taco short of a combination plate.
I’ll leave others to attempt to explain to him why it’s a good idea to give evidence for his assertations.
I’m going to do something more useful. Like try to straighten out the curly telephone cord.
According to the OP’s values (not mine), he is harming these women by sleeping with them–he is “using” them, and no matter how nice he is to them while he does so, when he finishes with them, they are no longer any good according to him. This strikes me as wrong.
If I had a hang-up that made me harm other people, or made me do what I consider damage to others, I would seek help, through reason. Reason can trump instincts.
I might gain some digestive advantage if I took a dump whenever I got the urge, even in the middle of the street. I was toilet trained by reason. How about you–does instinct still prevail?
Say, Gig, you’re saying that it’s all instinctual, so what does it matter what the social demographic of the board is?
A socially inept college educated computer geek should be attracted to the same type of virgin with wide child-bearing hips and plentiful milk-giving mamary glands that the suave beach going highschool dropout body builder is.
Right?
(and by the way, try to top that for a run-on sentence)
The girls in turn use him – for fancy dates, for bragging rights to their friends, for experience – whatever.
We all use one another. As long as we use one another consensually, on amicable terms, it doesn’t matter.
Jack Batty has a point. You can’t just claim that instinct is only applicable to a part of a species (excluding sex differences, which doesn’t count here, because we’re talking about specifically males) and expect that people would still call it “instinct.” If I discovered that 40% of black bears would eat honey over berries, I wouldn’t say that eating honey is therefore instinctual.
I am a woman who has been sexually active for the past thirty years and I can assure you, GG that quick and efficient impregnation never topped my list of qualities or abilities I have ever sought out in a lover. In fact, here’s the shocker, it never even made the list. I guess you can just color me an evolutionary oddity?
I’m going to even go way out on a limb here and suggest that the theory of evolution as posited by GG is grossly over simplified and manipulated by Giggle Gaggle himself.
As to the OP, I hope that he is very young and grows out of what I can only perceive as a terribly limiting behavior born of extreme and manifold insecurities.
Unless a sample is representative of the entire population, results therefrom simply have no scientific value. Therefore the enterprise is worthless.
In this case, it is worthless specifically because board members are mostly socially maladjusted beta males hoping to get into the good graces of the (proportionally) few female posters who in turn are mostly proponets of hardline feminism. The entire study would be tainted.
If you’re going to make assertions like this, I’m going to insist that you back them up or STOP MAKING THEM.
It’s time to put up or shut up.
You presume way too much.
This isn’t a dog pack. Beta male is a bullshit term.
What you’ve got going is the classic back-peddal. Be sure to stretch, you’ll cramp up.
Bwahahahahaha.
You’ve managed to make some remarkable assumptions there Giggle. Care to provide some back-up?
“Would a girlfriend that YOU (and nobody else) had sex with be considered too used?”
No. I refer only to experience with others.
“I still would love to know if Colinmarshall makes an exception if a girl was raped.”
I don’t know if I’d want to get involved with a “survivor.”
“Or if his girlfriend were to be raped-would he dump her?”
Again, I am NOT a bad person.
“Does your “gross-out” reaction also apply to kissing a woman who’s kissed another man before?”
It does indeed.
“Does your “gross-out” reaction also apply to receiving oral sex from a woman who’s given oral sex to another man before?”
That’s bad, but kissing a woman who’s given oral sex to another man is a much grimmer proposition.
“You must be a homophobic.”
While I myself am possessed of no homosexual impulses, I have several homosexual friends (as, nowadays, everyone does) and have no problem with their lifestyle whatsoever.
I don’t need to. My hunch is that the board is full of beta males. My specific reason for declining to do a scientific experiment using this group is because I am unable to verify that it is representative of the entire population.
That, sir, is one of the most inane bits of anthrobabble I’ve heard in a very long time. Additionally, what Q.E.D said!