NPR just aired a report on abstinence which featured a woman saying, “Take a look at my daughter’s wedding video. She said ‘I saved all my purity and innocence for my wedding.’” Well, isn’t that “special!” I have nothing wrong with people choosing to remain celebate until they’re married, but somehow implying (and it certainly was indicated by the woman’s tone) that you’re better simply because you’ve not done the nasty until you’ve gotten a piece of paper which says it’s okay for you to do so is fucking obnoxious!
FTR, I have a big dick (not of John Holmes proportions, but large enough that one of my partner’s who’d slept with 24 men before me found it a bit uncomfortable to deal with), and I hate making love to virigins! It’s painful for them and me! Plus, they don’t get a hell of a lot of enjoyment out of it! I’d much rather have a partner who’s been around the block a time or two before she saddles up to me. That way, we both can have a good time!
One of the reasons that society’s so fucked up is because people have hang ups about sex. I can remember my step-mother saying, “Sex is really no big deal.” To which I can remember thinking, “Easy for you to say, you can get it any time you want.” Meanwhile, I’m a 15 year old geek, who’s desperate to nail something. Not merely because my hormones have kicked in, but because pre-marital sex has been labelled “forbidden” and something that shouldn’t be talked about. Ya know, I might not have ended up being as screwed up as I was about sex if someone had had an honest discussion with me about it, instead of the crap I got. Hell, I’d have been a better lover to some of my partners if I’d been given a fucking clue about fucking before hand. Instead it took some rather humilitating experiences to teach me what I needed to know.
Of course, that’s my fault! I should have waited until I got married (Oh, wait a minute! I’m not married yet!) and then I could have gone through the trauma of being divorced because I was a lousy lover, instead of merely being dumped for same!
It’s times like this that I remember what Winston Smith said in 1984:
Well said. I also have a big dick, and although I’ve never slept with one, I would imagine sex with a virgin would be nigh on impossible. I still have to take it slowly now, even though my partner has three kids! You can bet most of these mothers telling their kids not to have sex before marriage are catholics.
So you’re saying that all virgins who get married are going to suffer a nasty divorce because they are lousy lovers? :dubious:
I’m not saying premarital sex is wrong. It’s just not right for everyone.shrugClearly in your case,sex outside of marriage is ok and I’m saying it’s ok.
BUT…some people, for religious reasons or otherwise, choose to remain virgins.Don’t hate me because I was a premarital virgin.Don’t hate OTHERS because they are virgins. To remain virgin is their choice, just as it was your choice to lose your virginity a nd go hump everything in your path that didn’t run away fast enough.
(the Catholic bashing bit was to keep up with the new tradition of whining about the rant. It just had to be done, or else this thread wouldn’t be complete. Tis a damn good thing you didn’t complain about Big-Chested but Skinny Catholics™.)
It just occured to me that if you wait until you get married, chances are you may be slightly older or at least be more mature about sex. Thus, even though you are a virgin, you can deal with the messing about until you’ve got in your groove, so to speak, that would accompany the new sexual relationship?
Or do newly wedded virgins have similar experiences to the hastily grabbed, fairly unsatisfactory tumble behind the bikesheds that often are the first sexual experiences for many.
And of course, not having to worry about all the unintended consequences of pre-marital sex, like pregnancy, AIDS, HPV, and on is so obviously a bad thing, isn’t it?
Try listening to LOVELINE, a radio program on late at night with Dr. Drew Pinsky and Adam Corolla. The sheer number of emotional carwrecks is an eye-opener.
Sounds like you’re passing off your guilt and sexual hangups to this woman and her daughter, not the other way around. Her daughter won’t have a jealous husband worrying about previous lovers. Her daughter won’t have to worry that a STD might be passed on to her husband. These ARE good things, you know. If you want to play the game, don’t bitch because you have to pay. And don’t bitch because someone else decides the price just might be too high.
Or was this poor excuse of a rant just the opening you need to advertise your big dick?
Ain’t bashing Catholics, ain’t bashing anyone who chooses to remain celibate until marriage, am bashing folks who seem to think that doing so ensures that they’re better human beings than the rest of us.
Frankly, I don’t care what you do with your genitals, nor whom you do it with (provided everyone’s a willing participant), I just don’t like smug assholes claiming they’re better than me because they choose to do something different with their reproductive organs than me. I’ve had folks try and tell me that I wasn’t a “man” because I haven’t had kids as of yet, and that pisses me off just as much as folks who think that their virginity makes them superior to me.
And to be honest, I do envy the folks that marry their high school sweetheart and stay married to them for decades. It would be nice to be so lucky as to meet one’s lifemate so early on in life. For most of us, that’s simply not possible.
There are about one billion Catholics worldwide. The religion of Islam alone, which has 1.3 billion adherents worldwide, also teaches that premarital sex is wrong. Even discounting the various other Christian denominations and world religions that condemn premarital sex, you are probably* incorrect.
this is assuming that there is not a gross disparity between the number of Catholics who happen to be mothers as opposed to mothers in other religions, and also assuming there is no gross disparity in number of mothers of these religions that pass on their beliefs to their children.
Being, of course, a proud member of the Straight Dope Massive Boner (SDMB) society, I thought I’d share my experience in having intercourse with a virgin.
It was fun, but not as fun as it would have been if she had been more experienced. Still, you have to start somewhere. I shall continue corrupting her, in the name of science. Expect a more complete report at the next meeting.
