Is Objective Christian Ministries fer real?

[First, mods, this may be more appropriate for General Questions; given the religious wackiness of the site I’m asking about, however, I’m suspecting the conversation will veer into Great Debates territory, so I’m posting this here. My apologies if this is incorrect.]

My brother just sent me a link to the Objective Christian Ministries Creation Science Fair, one of the funnier sites I’ve seen in awhile. Amongst the prizewinning experiments at the site:

Thermodynamics of Hell Fire! Hee hee hee!

Anyway, the site is in-depth enough, including sections mocking “evolutionists,” that it’s hard to believe it’s a joke. At the same time, I notice that they’ve got a whole project devoted to shutting down Landover Baptist Church, whose leader is “a shadowy figure named Chris Harper who apparently has a history of anti-Christian bigotry”; they link to a page “which shows pictures from an Atheist convention that “Reverend” Chris Harper was a key speaker at with other anti-Christian blackguards such as Douglas Adams and Dave “Mephistopheles” Kong!” Again: hee hee hee!

I can’t figure these guys out. Brilliant satirists, or amazing nutjobs?


Thermodynamics of Hell Fire – snort

I go to your link and all I get is a page adverstising some browser add-on also when I googled “objective christian” I went throught the homepage there but got the same thing.

I can’t get the link to work either, but from what you describe, it has to be satire, doesn’t it (Internet satire seems to thrive on this uncertainty) - Attacking Landover Baptist is a brilliant ploy.

That’s bizarre that the link isn’t working: I can click on it and go directly to the site. Are other folks having that problem? The raw link that I have is

– does that work any better? Or if you Google “Christian Science Fair”, the third entry that pops up is the link I’m describing.


Nope; that link (regardless of whether I click it or paste it in) gets me redirected to Same thing if I get there via Google.

That’s just freaky. Why would it send some browsers to one place and other browsers to another? Maybe it has something to do with whether cookies are enabled or something? I’ve never heard of such a thing.


Try this cached version of the page, courtesy of Google.


Dammit, corrected cached link.


The link works fine for me.

My personal favourite is the Middle School winning entry, “Life Doesn’t Come from Non-life”:
Patricia Lewis (grade 8) did an experiment to see if life can evolve from non-life. Patricia placed all the non-living ingredients of life - carbon (a charcoal briquet), purified water, and assorted minerals (a multi-vitamin) - into a sealed glass jar. The jar was left undisturbed, being exposed only to sunlight, for three weeks. (Patricia also prayed to God not to do anything miraculous during the course of the experiment, so as not to disqualify the findings.) No life evolved. This shows that life cannot come from non-life through natural processes.

I particularly like the request for non-divine intervention in a science experiment :smiley:

It must be satire, although if it is, these people sure have a lot of spare time up their sleeves!

I’m pretty sure that OBJECTIVE: Ministries is a put-on (probably by the authors of Landover). There was a thread on this a while back, but I keep getting bounced on the search, this morning.

Check out the “biographies” for the OBJECTIVE: Ministries staff:

Okay, good call. Their anti-evolution stuff looked just serious enough to be real, and I hadn’t checked out their bio pages. Great stuff!


Crank Dot Net lists it as ‘parody’.

It’s a hoax.

[url=]This site seems to suggest that it is indeed put together by the Landover people.

Google does not turn up a “Fellowship University.”