jesussaves: satire or very creepy. I can't decide.

Here

Creepy, regardless.

Fake.

… and Gretzky scores on the rebound!

I vote joke, simply on the basis of Hopsiah, the Kanga-Jew.

Also, under “Kidz Crafts,” there’s instructions for making a construction paper crucifixtion nail with the words, “Sorry, Jesus” written on the side.

Or, try clicking on the “Anti-triclavianism” button down the left side of the screen. Or the Christian rock one. Some funny shit in there.

I followed the links to this movie. Surely one of the silliest movies I’ve ever heard of.

Definitely parody. Under the Creation Science Fun Facts:

Question:
Hey, Professor! Haven’t dinos been extinct for millions of years?
Wrong, little buddy… Dinosaurs still walk on the land and swim in the seas! And the Earth is less than 10,000 years old!

which then linked to this rather amusing anecdote.

The parody is so over the top, it actually starts to sound true. Now that’s creepy.

As discussed in the threads
Is Objective Christian Ministries fer real?
“Pokemon Prove Evolutionism Is False”
Creationist Science website (hoax or not?)
Attention Mac users, pple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism.
and a few others I can’t find right now, the site is a hoax.

I have to say that it is pretty good, given the number of times some Doper or other has tripped over it and thought it was real, however.

The site is quite large and rather involved, so if you find a site that is just a bit too over the top, even for religious loonies, look for the following associations:
Dr. Richard Paley
Dr. Andrew Miller
(Mt.) Fellowship Baptist (Church)
Fellowship University
Objective: Christian Ministries
Objective: Creation Education
the objective.jesussave.us web site

I must have some kinda crapware on my machine, I get redirected to http://www.paysforsurveys.com/ when I try to go to that site. Time to fire up AdAware and Spybot, I guess.

AdAware and Spybot found nothing. Anybody else getting redirected on that link? Maybe it’s not my machine but the site itself.

Psst. It’s a parody. The same folks that do Landover Baptist.

Witness (sorry) thisbit from a companion link. Scroll down to the bottom.

"The Error Of Triclavianism

"… Triclavianists hold that three, and only three, nails were used to affix our Lord Jesus Christ to the cross. While it might be true that three nails were used – and, in fact, archeological evidences uncovered by Biblical researchers positively point to this conclusion – it is erroneous, and theologically dangerous, to make this a doctrinal position. The Bible does not enumerate the Lord’s nails and any extra-Biblical research on the subject – while both interesting and useful for apologetic purposes when dealing with those afflicted with a Secular world view that denies even the historicity of our Lord’s passion and crucifixion – cannot be considered of any substantive import to the Faith. …

“The heresy in triclavianism is not the belief in the use of only three nails, per se. Rather, it is the insistence that fallible, non-Biblical sources of information should be used as a guide to important matters of Faith. Triclavianism is merely a pernicious symptom of a greater illness inflicting today’s Christians: the allowing of Secularists to subvert the authority of Christ’s teachings, thereby replacing Faith with skepticism and knowledge with ignorance. Those who do not oppose this illness strongly enough, although their motives may be pure, are only helping to spread it…”

You can even get a T-shirt. Or a thong with Ruby the submissive lioness on it.

There’s that and the link calling for the shutdown of Landover Baptist itself.

I’m laughing.

I’ve never been able to view the site and I have tried from maybe a dozen different machines via half a dozen different ISPs - all of my UK friends report the same phenomenon - it appears that you can’t view the site if your connection is through a UK ISP (possibly other countries too).

I found another reference on the web somewhere to this effect, but the odd thing is I’m in the US and was able to view the page previously. I have not changed ISPs since, either.

It may be, then, that there is simply a list of blocked IPs that happens to include all of the ISPs I tried (or all UK ISPs, or something). I’ll have to try browsing it with a proxy. I am able to view Google’s cache of their pages, but of course the links don’t work that way, so it is hard to look around the site.

I ran objective.jesussave.us through ID Server from Gibson Research, and got the following:


Initiating server query ...
Looking up IP address for domain: objective.jesussave.us
The IP address for the domain is: 66.28.153.39
Connecting to the server on standard HTTP port: 80
[Connected]  Requesting the server's default page.
The server returned the following response headers:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Connection: close
Content-Location: http://objective.jesussave.us/index.html
Set-Cookie: p41h79axz=1; path=/
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:30:54 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Last-Modified: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:06:22 GMT
ETag: "26a1799b3c4c41:821"
Content-Length: 14210
Query complete.

Then, I ran their IP address and got this:


Initiating server query ...
Looking up the domain name for IP: 66.28.153.39
The domain name for the IP address is: objective.jesussave.us
Connecting to the server on standard HTTP port: 80
[Connected]  Requesting the server's default page.
The server returned the following response headers:
**HTTP/1.0 302 Object Moved
Location: http://www.paysforsurveys.com**
Server: Web1000_404teen
Content-Type: text/html
Query complete.

I’m not sure why the page gets redirected when you access it with the IP address only, but that may account for some of the problems you guys have had.

You just jave to accept Jesus into your heart…

I was initially suckered by that site… it’s a brilliant parody. I’ve often thought that these days it’s increasingly hard to tell the difference between reality and parody. For instance, the site godhatesfags.com is not (intentionally) a parody, and it is far more creepy than jesussaves.com.

It is a brilliant parody.

In fact, I bet I could email anonymously to my Evangelical SIL and she would probably wet her panties over how it speaks the truth.

Got Jesus? More like Got Goatse: http://objective.jesussave.us/kidzart-jesusshineshislove.png

(No, it is NOT the goatse man - the pic is completely worksafe and family friendly. But the resemblance to goatse is uncanny.)

I’ve mentioned this before, but on a creation/evolution debate board I occasionally post on, there was a staunch creationist who not only thought that jessusave.us was genuine, but that it was insightful and useful too - proving (I think) the case that there is no objective or meaningful difference between ‘real’ creationism and ‘fake’ creationism.