Is Texas or the south east a country on its own?

YES but

1 southern accents and dialect

1 friendlier
2 more chatting even with people
3 more slower pace and dress better than people in North east and Midwest
4 less in rush to go somewhere
5 more chatting even with people they do not know

is more a southern thing.

Is it they are afraid to be associated confederate supporters or other parts of the south?

I know one thing when I was in Texas I never seen the confederate flag or many people wearing the t-shirt with the confederate on it like I did in Florida and Georgia

Heads up everyone:

You will see 1-5 quite often if you keep reading this thread. Sweat209 is going to repeat it in pretty much every single post.

They certainly exist in Texas (then again, I have seen those plenty of times in rural New England as well - some people just like the rebel theme). East Texas is the Deep South just as much as Georgia, South Carolina or Louisiana but it is also part of Texas as well and most Texans take their state and its history very seriously. The supposed dividing line is supposedly somewhere around Ft. Worth if you are driving west on I-20. It starts out as Deep South if you drive into Texas from the Louisiana border and remains somewhat Southern all the way until Dallas. Once you pass west of Dallas and enter the Ft. Worth area, that is where ‘The West begins’. I know this because my mother is from there and has explained it to me repeatedly since I could talk.

Further south, parts of the Houston area are fairly Southern in flavor but it is also the 4th biggest city in the U.S. and quite diverse as noted. Expecting it to be anything but mostly mixed would be the same as expecting that everyone in Chicago follow a Midwestern farmer stereotype. It doesn’t work that way for cities of that size.

No I want some other people who moved down there or spend some time to add there take on this.And what they feel like living down there or spending some time there.

Okay. My qualifications:

18 years in rural Southeastern Ohio
1 year in Mississippi
6 Years in North Carolina
3 Years in North Dakota
3 Years in New Jersey
2.5 Years in Las Vegas
3 Years in Japan
2 Years in S. Korea
Cincinnati for the past 3 years

So, in my well-traveled opinion, there is not enough cultural differences to set aside the South East U.S. and Texas as their own countries.

And before you ask:

1 friendlier

People in the South are not friendlier, they merely express it differently

2 more chatting even with people

Oddly people in the South are more chatting with trees

3 more slower pace and dress better than people in North east and Midwest

One of my biggest gripes about living in the Midwest is that no one actually appears to want to reach their destination. The tendency around here is to drive very slowly.

I’m not sure what you mean by “better dressed”. Aside from some regional fads, people in North Carolina, Ohio, North Dakota, and New Jersey dressed pretty much the same. The only real difference that I noticed is that as I got closer to the ocean, I saw more beachwear in restaurants, which pretty much true everywhere.

4 less in rush to go somewhere

Asked and answered

*5 more chatting even with people they do not know *

You’ve never met my mother. Seriously, the woman can’t not talk to people. She is 70 and lived her entire life in Ohio.

Historically, Texas was never quite as reliant on cotton raised by slaves as other southern states, and never really had that whole antebellum South thing going. For the most part, it was more of a frontier state, with some slave-grown cotton, but that wasn’t the cornerstone of its economy and culture. Plus there were large German and Czech immigrant populations as well.

As a result, support for secession wasn’t nearly the overwhelming thing that it was in other Southern states, and I think that tends to carry forward into the modern day- our identity wasn’t defined by slavery and the period immediately prior to the Civil War, like so many other Southern states seem to be.

Texas is slightly bigger than France which is one of the largest countries in Western Europe. It short, it is big - really big especially if you drive straight across the Panhandle. You can’t ask about generalizations about a place that large and expect to get good answers. I grew up right on the Louisiana side of the Louisiana/Texas line. We could walk into Texas or swim across the Sabine river to get there and often did. We knew we were in the extreme Deep South and our neighbors half a mile away in Texas were the same but the whole state isn’t like that. East Texas is the Deep South - full stop. There is little difference culturally between it and neighboring Louisiana. People party hard, take high school football seriously, and are generally happy overall. It isn’t the richest or most educated part of the country but recent, reputable studies show that it is the happiest region in the whole country despite its other problems.

Look at a map, Texas can be many things including a desolate wasteland in the west near the New Mexico border to a Mexican border town. Dallas, Houston and Austin outperform the vast majority of the rest of the country when it come to economic opportunity combined with a rather low cost of living. People are generally much friendlier than they are in the Midwest or Northeast and the weather is more favorable as well if you prefer hot over cold.

People like to make fun of Texas here because they don’t like its politics but the results are speaking for themselves these days. If you need to move somewhere with a friendly population, a vibrant economy and a lower cost of living, I believe that it would be my top pick among all states.

But one thing I have notest don’t know about others here is Texas has more cowboy look than other Southerner states.I was shocked how other other Southerner states despise cowboy boots or cowboy hat.

http://americancowboy.com/sites/default/files/Ryan-Wood03.jpg

I see a lot of girls into the cowboy boots too.

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I just don’t see this in Georgia , South Carolina or Florida.

Northwestern Louisiana is big into cowboys as well. I grew up with real ones as well as cousins that were professional barrel racers and friends that did rodeo bull riding. It is a gradient as you move from east to west in the South but the area I grew up in was directly on the Louisiana/Texas border and it was never a question if we were in the Deep South or not. We were in every way and so were our East Texan friends just right over the border. We never made any distinction except to be aware of different state laws.

There are plenty of people who move to the south and hate it and return to where they came from and I would venture to say very few do so because of the reasons you say it is different. There are other, much less pleasant differences than people not being in a hurry. And this applies to Texas too.

Texas is not a country, it is a large state with several varying regions and a superiority complex.

Dang, I saw more cowboy boots in two years in tiny Artesia, New Mexico than I ever did in 18yrs of Houston area living.

Men’s footwear I saw a lot of Houston:

Stacy Adams

Bally

Birkenstock

Nike

Nunn Bush
Most of the guys I knew were indeed likely to have a good pair of Justins or Naconas, but tended to wear them for occasions. Like going to Gilley’s or a Hispanic wedding.

As usual, ymmv, this my personal experience

Nm. Not sure what happened to my quote

I grew up in northeast Arkansas. I saw more custom fitted Stetsons and boots there than in my first 5 years in Houston.

Again, confirmation bias. If you ignore everything that doesn’t match your bias, you’ll only be left with things that match your stereotypes.

ETA: And yes, the piney woods of East Texas are more or less an extension of the “South”, though less now than it used to be. Texas is too big to generalize in any sort of way.

The Conch Republic, formerly known as Key West, FL, is another country on it’s own.

Look, it’s not like all Southerners/Texans get together and decide they’re going to act a certain way towards non-natives and transplants. They don’t agree on a dress code. They don’t eat the same food. There’s diversity everywhere. You can find art, poetry and classical music venues alongside racetracks and football stadiums. Are you expecting to step into a scene from *Deliverance *when you go south of the Mason-Dixon line?

Guess what? Rednecks are universal. Northern rednecks start their cars by putting flaming tires on top of their engines. Californians can havemountain, valley, and desert rednecks. There’s even rednecks in Connecticut!

If you plan to visit Texas or the Southeast, don’t go there expecting the cultural differences will get you hung by the neck by a bonfire. Just treat people nice and they’ll treat you nice.

I have been following this thread because I was raised in Texas and lived in most of the larger cities and also several small towns.

The one stereotype that I have encountered more than once is the “good ol’ boy rich Texas oilman” complete with drawl, cowboy hat and boots. All were laid-back, friendly, very savvy and sly as foxes. :smiley:

Back when I was in high school in suburban Texas, we had a clique of kids called “ropers” who wore stereotypical Western cowboy/cowgirl gear. But it was just a costume choice, sort of like the goths and whatnot. You’ll see adult people dressed like that in the cities sometimes, but it seems to be more common in men older than 50 or those from small towns. I do own a pair of custom boots, but only because it was important to my grandmother that I have them. But having lived or spent considerable time in three of the four major cities in Texas, I agree that they’re pretty much like all other major US cities. If you’re suggesting that Dallas or Houston drivers are laid back and not in a hurry, you are insane, however. Houston traffic is legendarily bad and driving there is an adventure.