Is Texas or the south east a country on its own?

Houston traffic has improved quite a bit. I think the worst road by quite a bit is the West Loop area of 610. Outside of that, I’d say it is your fairly typical traffic with rush hour to be avoided and fine outside of that. I think it’s pretty well accepted that Austin has the worst traffic situation in Texas with no solution in sight.

Don’t forget 290. It’s “improved” but it’s still a nightmare.

You left out the “goat” part!

Yep. Goat Ropers.

I remember them from my highschool. They spent weekends on GrandPa’s “ranch” out near Humble. :wink:

Texas just wasn’t a major player in the war in any case. Texas made a reasonable contribution to the ranks of the Confederate armies, but was not itself in the epicenter of war. Once Grant captured Vicksburg in 1863 Texas was more or less cut off from the Confederacy and spent the rest of the war kind of operating as an independent fiefdom; at war’s end the Confederate army there did not so much surrender as just kind of walk home, and by the time the Union arrived there was hardly anyone left who’d bothered to stay in uniform. So it’s not like the war was an immediate, present thing careening across its countryside, the way it was in Virginia or Tennessee and places like that, and so never was quite as much of the state’s identity.

The word redneck seems to be used lot and if you put 100 people in room they all seem to tell you different things what redneck means.Some people thing redneck are conservative ,southerners ,poor southerners ,uneducated ,people who hunt or fish or cowboys or people messing teeth or no shirt on so on.I think the word redneck should be deleted and if you come across set of people call them what they are not putting a label on them.

But if you talking about redneck pride that is other thing all together.It is normally people going to redneck events ,game,monster truck , mud fest so on.I think there is some of this around Houston but there is none of that around Dallas.

So why is there lack of people with the confederate flag or t-shirt with the confederate flag? At least in Fort Worth and Dallas area? Is it they feel they wast not part of major player in the war?

It’s a city. Even in the South, they’re not that common.

On my drive from Houston back to Arkansas along 59, I passed entire businesses flying confederate flags in some of the smaller towns.

The people who live across the street from me have confederate flag bumper stickers in one of the suburbs of Houston. They’re hardly alone.

Again, confirmation bias. You’re not seeing what you don’t want to see.

Is Houston more southern than Dallas? I was in Dallas so did not see confederate flag or t-shirt with confederate flag.

I did not see any of the stereotypical redneck look in Dallas.

Guy with no shirt on and long hair.

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Guys in muscle shirt looking rough from the woods.

I see more this in other southern states not Texas.Why is that? Or is this more in the Houston area or towns or country.More east Texas?

Not Dallas thing.

When I lived in small towns in Texas, I saw that last bunch a lot. :slight_smile:

I’ve seen them in the Dallas area. If you’re looking for them, it’s hard not to find them around.

Just because you haven’t seen them (or more likely just never noticed) doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

Stereotypical redneck look? Plenty in Dallas, Houston, and elsewhere. Again, just because you haven’t noticed them doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

Generalizing a single person’s experience is usually a mistake. Too much room for subjective errors to crop up.

That’s really intriguing, since I had honestly never heard the “goat” part before, we always just called them ropers. I was just thinking of it as a subculture that you probably wouldn’t see if you grew up in, say, Boston, but I don’t know that for sure.

One thing that does distinguish North Texas in particular is that we have garages/alleyways behind the house, rather than in the front of the house. That doesn’t have anything to do with muscle shirts and Confederate flags, but it is pretty unique.

I seen none of this in Dallas or Garland. I seen this more in northwest ,Missouri ,Kansas ,Florida ,Tennessee and Amarillo.

My grandparents’ home in Galveston was the same - alley in back, with the garage facing it. We were allowed to play in the alley because there wasn’t much traffic. All the blocks around theirs had alleys, and that’s where the garbage was picked up, too. It made the neighborhood look nice when viewing the fronts of the houses.

Saw a lot of that all over north Texas, even a few SW OK towns. I like it, was like that in Alhambra, CA, too in the late 60s early 70s, not sure about now.

sweat209, is English your 1st language? You see to be missing some plainly stated (and repeated) points. Not snark, just wondering.

Here is a nice little visual for you. It is a scale model outline of Texas superimposed on a map of Europe to give you some perspective about the sizes involved. You can see why making general statements about a state as large and diverse as that can be problematic.

Texas can be lots of things - Southern, Southwestern, near Mexican and lots more depending on which region you are talking about. It is the 2nd most populous state after California and has more people than New York. It has also been part of 5 countries as well as an independent country within the last 200 years alone - Spain (1519–1821), France (1685–1690), Mexico (1821–1836), the Republic of Texas (1836–1845), the Confederate States of America (1861–1865), and the United States (1845–1861; 1865–present).

It can be a little difficult to pigeon-hole a state as large as that with such a varied history according to a few stereotypes. Besides being Southern in parts, it also has a rich German history with some historic towns like Fredericksburg where some residents can still speak the Texas-German dialect (yes, there really is such a thing) and work hard maintain their Texas/German heritage. The French speaking Cajuns, more commonly associated with Louisiana also extended into Texas all the way close to Houston. Not all Hispanic Texans are recent immigrants either by any stretch of the imagination. There are some Texas-Mexican families that have lived in the area since well before anyone ever thought about the Jamestown or the Mayflower about 400 years ago.

Unfortunately, it’s basically dead. Some people are recording as much as possible to preserve it for historical purposes. It’s mostly older people.

Also, don’t forget the Czech population.

Depending on how you count “Czech”, there are more in Texas than in the Czech Republic.

Kolaches? Heck yeah! Even the ones at Buc-ees are pretty darned good.

Well, to be fair, Dallas and Garland aren’t where you’re going to see unreconstructed rednecks in their natural habitat. Go spend some time in Mesquite, Royce City, Forney, Prosper, Kaufman County or anywhere NW of the Metroplex, and you’ll see plenty of rednecks.

To be fair, the mullet isn’t really part of the uniform- a goatee and hunting camo usually are though.

:frowning: Until you mentioned this, I had forgotten the delicious home-made kolaches we would buy in the morning from the Czech bakery. Apple, blueberry, prune, peach, cheese and apricot ones, warm from the oven. He also used the same dough to make pigs-in-a-blanket. Now I am craving them.