Yep. Clubs are the hardest environment to pick-up in because girls are on their guard the second they walk in the door. They’ll test you way harder, other guys will tool you and compete to try to take your girl, the girls have had a dozen lame guys approach them, the girls get a little cocky because it’s just a bar so they’ll be way more rude than they would be in a normal environment, the music is often so loud you can barely talk or hear, DJs are shouting, fights break out around you, angry drunk boyfriends show up out of nowhere, girls play guys off against eachother for the fun of it, girls are out in massive groups and there’s always a mother hen or two who won’t let them run off with a guy even if they really want to, people get anywhere from a little tipsy to throwing-up hammered so you run into girls who can barely stand let alone listen to what you’re saying (I hate that! They’re always so cute till they’re hammered) and guys have been shot down a bunch and are sexually frustrated so they’re quicker to throw down…and even if you get phone numbers from girls here, 90% of them won’t even respond let alone come meet up again.
…I love it. 
I like the challenge.
Chatting up a cute friendly chick who’s not expecting to get picked up in a quiet bookstore, or grabbing a number from a girl on the bus beside you is a walk in the park if you can hold your own in a chaotic nightclub. Plus daytime numbers are almost always solid compared to bars.
There’s a PUA that focuses entirely on meeting girls during the week during the daytime, and then sets up his dates for fri/sat nights, to avoid the bar scene chaos altogether.
The main reason to be in at least “okay” shape (don’t need a six-pack or anything, even a little chubby is fine) is that it’s something you can control. You might have been born with an ugly pug-face, be super short, have mangled teeth, had a thumb lopped off when you were a kid, etc. Those aren’t things you can control. But your weight, brushing your teeth, clipping your nails, wearing clothes that look good on you and match your personality, etc. are things you can control, so it says good things about you if you take care of them.
Fix what you can, don’t worry about what you can’t. 
Oddly, often the giant body-builder juice-monkey guys have ugly/controlling/etc. girlfriends, if any at all, despite society’s assumptions that they’ll get the hottest girls…because their hardcore working out is linked to low self-esteem (never big enough, never jacked enough, obsessively measuring bodyfat, etc.). This isn’t all of them obviously, but when you see a jacked up guy in a club, he’s usually not competition at all in terms of attracting women (you just have to watch out he doesn’t get mad and knock your head in with his giant monkey-fists haha)
Glad you met guys you dig! Online has been an awesome advancement in making dating more accessable to people who hate the bar scene. Game still works on dating sites (my buddy and I pick up a ton of chicks off them) but I personally like to go for girls I see in person because I’ve fallen for the “profile isn’t anything like the person actually is in real life” thing a few times haha
Glad you wrote that because I agree and it describes pick-up. The girls I flirt with know exactly what’s going on because they’re socially aware too.
As soon as we start flirting they can tell where I’m going to lead things, and they’re relieved because most guys will make things awkard out of shyness, take too long to make a move, not be able to read their signals, judge them with a madonna/whore complex for being horny, etc. So when I come along and they can tell from my vibe that not only am I going to give them a chance to let loose sexually with no judgement at all, but that I’m also going to competantly handle their friends and the environment around us in a way where I make everything seem like my fault instead of theirs so they can keep their madonna reputation…why wouldn’t they LOVE that and jump at the chance to play along?
Girls love sex. They’re just judged for admitting that to their friends, family, and men (the degree depends on the society/culture they’re raised in of course). PUAs understand girls love sex and just remove all the obstacles to them having a fun sexual experience where they don’t feel judged as a whore.
Agreed! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: How people say they’ll react when they’re consciously thinking about it and how they react emotionally in the moment are often two entirely different things.
Like I say, it’s not selling a girl a lemon. It’s giving her exactly what her sexual self craves, the chance to act without judgement.
- TWTTWN
