Just to be clear by the way, it can take a while to learn to be really good with women but to find a girlfriend you don’t need to be amazing, so not everyone needs to invest in years of hardcore work. And it’s not like you spend years practicing before you see any success. I grabbed 2 phone numbers the first weekend I consciously gave some basic game a try (opinion opened, teased, led them around the bar, went for the phone number unapologetically). Along the way to getting good are all sorts of awesome little victories over your self-doubts or limiting beliefs.
If a normal guy who’s decent with socializing already but knows girls just don’t see him as someone they’re sexually attracted to goes out this weekend and meets a girl, playfully teases her, gets her to qualify herself, and tells the girl “you’re fun, we should hang out again sometime, give me your number.” he’ll likely get the number. Like literally that’s all you need to read to improve your interactions noticeably this weekend, no years and years of work.
If you lack social skills, you need lots of work. And if you want to get the super-hotties that other guys don’t have a chance with, you need lots of work. And if you want to take over nightclubs you need lots of work.
But if you just want to get a number, it’s pretty simple.
Because if they can’t pull it off properly they’ll come across as arrogant dicks, or appear to obviously be faking it?
It’s like computers- they’ve been around and reasonably affordable for most people since about 1995 or so, and they’ve certainly been in high schools since about then. You’d think that, realistically, most people under 30 or so would be reasonably good with computers and know the basics about them, how to install simple programmes and use the basic functions in Word and Excel, and know roughly what “RAM” or a “Hard Drive” is/does.
The fact that this isn’t true is one of the significant reasons people like me still have jobs . There are friends and colleagues of mine that I’ve spent countless hours trying to teach and explain this stuff to, and some of them get it pretty quickly and some of them Just Don’t Get It at all, no matter how much you simplify it, explain it, or carefully teach/demonstrate it. I’d suggest the same is true for PUA- there have to be people who just aren’t capable of convincingly pulling it off, no matter how much they practice or study it.
Over time it’ll sort itself out. When you first learn to play baseball you can’t hit worth a damn, drop a bunch of balls trying to catch them, fuck up a few plays. I mean, it sucks, and it’s an embarrassing moment when it happens. But over time you learn to play and get the skills down. No one expects you to do it right the first time.
Most guys will spend a lot of time getting rejected and embarrassing themselves before they smooth themselves out. But a guy who’s starting from a decently normal place will notice improvements really fast. It all comes down to how far down the rabbit hole you’re starting from.
Some people have different learning styles, I agree. That’s part of why IT/programmer type guys are drawn to PUA, a lot of it resembles logic and flowcharts so it gives them a familiar structure. To other people it’s way overthinking it and there’s too much information and too many nuances and it bogs them down or they have trouble understanding it, so they would need a different way to learn the same concepts.
Also some guys are so far into nerd-hood or depression or anti-social behavior that it’s hard to pull back enough to seem normal. Like, they would have so much work to do that it’d be pretty much impossible. Sort of like a 400lb guy going on a diet…a 250lb guy is going to have a way easier time hitting 180lb and he’s going to do it a lot sooner. The concept of dieting still works and if that 400lb guy were able to diet for 200 years he could lose that weight, it’s just the 400lb guy is pretty fucked because given our relatively short life-spans he didn’t start dieting until he was way into the extreme.
A guy who’s discovering this stuff in his 30s, who’s wired himself super hardcore into a nerdy/anti-social vibe, and who doesn’t learn via reading/instruction very well, is probably not going to be able to pick the the concepts up the way they’re primarily presented right now.
I agree there are people that would have trouble learning the systems. But I’m not sure what your point is, I don’t think I’ve ever said everyone can be a good PUA…?
It also doesn’t change whether the systems work. If I can’t explain to you “if calories in is less than calories out you’ll lose weight” in a way you can understand, you might not be able to diet but the formula still holds.
