…so are you speaking for DrDeth then?
Did you mean this Biden then, or another Biden? A yes or no would suffice.
By “largely ineffective” I mean be so pathetic they lost the House, the Senate, the Executive and the Supreme Court running on the sort of policy that apparently you support. It worked so well for you last time. Why don’t they do it all again and lets watch them fail spectacularly one more time.
Trump didn’t win because the Democrats are pathetic - he won because a big, big chunk of America wanted what he was selling. His raw vote numbers increased each election.
That doesn’t mean the Democrats aren’t pathetic - they (we) are, at least in a lot of ways, IMO. But I’m not sure if there’s anything Harris could have done to win. I think she ran nearly as well as humanly possible in the circumstances she faced. America just wanted what Trump was selling more.
…Trump won for a lot of different reasons. I agree with you on that.
But my position on the Democrats has been consistent. I don’t expect them to “push the sort of Socialist nonsense favoured by Jacobin.” I expect them to listen to what people want and then give them something to vote for. With an exception for things like trans-rights. They should always stand for the underdog.
That’s it. Election 101. It may not have won them the last election. (But it may have) But at least they would have gone down fighting.
For me it all fell apart when they got Tim Walz to pull his punches. It was a carefully stage-managed campaign that at times was outright weird (“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot”) . It was the clearest sign for me of how badly the “consultants” and the Dem leadership failed to read the moment.
Yeah, I agree about that. I think Walz was really getting to Trump and Vance. I hope he runs in '28 and follows his instincts.
…I was like yes! That’s just what they needed!
Then we had that debate. And for me, that’s when I felt they had bottled it.
Right. I wish Walz had asked Vance “why are you so interested in what’s inside strangers’ pants? Why can’t you just let people live their lives and be themselves? I just don’t get it. It’s so damn weird to me.”
Well, one of our posters have said if you arent from his native country, you cant have opinions about it. But the main thing is that you arent the OP, and the OP gives the definitions for the thread. We arent here to argue your personal definitions.
Newsom called out the Texas legislature and their bigoted gerrymandering to ensure a GOP win in the House in 2026 by giving the GOP another 5-6 seats. Newsom called and raised by Prop 50, which could give the Dems an extra Nine seats in Congress. See- An American would know this. We had at least one thread about it here in P&E. Thus more or less single-handedly saving democracy in America
Right, and good cite there also.
Well, at least the House- the Senate is a big maybe.
No, the real Joe Biden, not the fantasy one by a hack writer.
Ad Fontes Media rates Jacobin in the Hyper-Partisan Left category of bias and as Mixed Reliability/Opinion OR Other Issues in terms of reliability. J
…I don’t care what one of our other posters has said. I’m talking to you. Am I allowed to have an opinion here or not? Because why bring it up in the first place?
It’s a split-thread.
And the OP didn’t provide a definition.
And the person I was talking to was arguing as if “post Democracy” meant “fascist dictatorship.” I didn’t think that at all. So I provided what I thought it meant.
We obviously need some sort of a benchmark for discussion. Other people (not the OP) put forward their versions. Why can’t I?
And how are you defining “post Democracy?”
So he…said something?
:: googles ::
That was in November. That’s stretching the definition of “just” just a tad. That was months ago.
Oh give me a fucking break. I doubt every American would know the specifics of what random thing you were talking about when you said:
And did you miss the part where I said I was talking in broad strokes?
LOL.
So how about this Joe Biden?
Or this one?
How about this one?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/29/joe-biden-bipartisanship-2020-president-227250/
Or this one?
How about this guy?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/us/politics/joe-biden-mitch-mcconnell.html
If you don’t know, maybe don’t speak authoritatively about it.
He didn’t just say something, he came up with legislation to counter Texas’s unfair legislative advantage and then got it passed in his state.
It’s the beginning of January. Claiming that November was “months” ago stretches the definition of the plural “S”, since November was 42 days ago. That’s not even a month and a half.
Sure. But we are not debating YOUR definition
So?
We will stick to the real Joe Biden and what he really did. However, we are getting into hijack territory.
But you didnt know. And hardly “months”.
Right
Good point.
…I acknowledged that in my second response.
We really are just nitpicking everything I’m saying at this stage aren’t we LOL. I checked google news. There was nothing recent that was relevant. I’m not a mind-reader.
I didn’t say you had to.
What do you mean so? You said this:
But they didn’t.
What is it you are wanting me to do here?
So that would mean yes then. Because that was the real Joe Biden. Or do you not trust the Atlantic and the New York Times now?
How on earth would you know that? I didn’t know what the heck you were talking about because all you said was this:
How was I supposed to know what you were talking about? And for the record…I don’t consider that to be “major pushback.” Not in a “post Democracy” world. It shouldn’t require Texas to do anything for Newsom and co to act. They should be pre-emptively doing everything they can right now. If there are other things they could be doing…then do that already. Every Democrat in the country should be singing from the same playbook.
We’re effectively at the point where it’s start shooting and blowing shit up, or we just have faith in our institutions and try to vote them out in the mid-terms and the next presidential election.
I’m not seeing a middle ground here, and I don’t think the majority of people are at the point where the first option is viable yet. Protesting is a waste of time and makes you a target, and nobody ever listens anyway, right or left, unless you’re already on the right side of things and the protest points up how wrong the establishment is. But snarky signs on City Hall lawn isn’t that.
Does Vanguard ask its millions of tiny investors how they should vote their shares? No. And Vanguard (and BlackRock etc.) also own Disney, NewsCorp, Google, Paramount, Netflix, etc. They have little incentive to build up one brand against another. The directors of BlackRock – even those with less than $1,000,000,000 – are all in the same “scratch each others’ back” club.
Alaska’s Senate seat might be in play:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/12/peltola-alaska-senate-2026-midterms-00721596
Hmm, good news.