There was no forcible rape involved and it is batshit insane to even imply such a thing. It was just kissing when I was a teenager. That is it. I also don’t even know what state it was in. That may sound odd but I grew up in a border area where you can’t tell where the Louisiana and Texas border are on rural roads and it was on one of those. I have no idea why so many women are fascinated by rape still read books like 50 Shades of Grey and then get outraged that two friends kissed each other decades ago.
Horse shit.
I am applying the ethical standards of my society and it’s law throughout my lifetime, which is a fair bit longer than yours. Whether you wish to believe it or not, opportunistic sexual assault such as you committed was not acceptable “back then”, or at least it was not acceptable where I lived, where it most certainly was illegal:
I can’t speak for rural Louisiana, but if you want to blame your willingness to commit opportunistic sexual assault on what you assert to be your region’s norms, then show us your laws on the date you sexually assaulted that woman.
For anyone who didn’t happen to be looking at this thread at exactly the right time, Shagnasty threatened Nawth Chucka but quickly edited it out.
He left the part about how the real outrage is women reading books.
The unedited version showed up in my mailbox:
Dude…
I find it patently offensive that you blow this off due to the “PC standards of today”. Absolutely disgusting. And I’m the first person to find it ridiculous when the extremist types stretch the definition of rape to where it barely has any meaning anymore. I feel that does nothing more than make it more difficult for actual victims to come forward. However, if you truly cannot see that getting into bed with someone and engaging in sexual contact, whether there was actual intercourse or not, without their knowledge and without their consent is sexual assault, then you genuinely have a serious problem. I usually roll my eyes inwardly when people start playing internet psychologist and diagnosing people via message board, but I sincerely think in this case the suggestions of NPD or sociopathy may be on point.
Oh, and now he’s making threats. Nice. I think this guy may actually be quite dangerous. That’s not hyperbole, either.
I can tell you that my fiancé, raised in rural GA and rural MO at the same time as the OP, and who was in no way, shape, or form a good, law-abiding kid (or an alleged virgin at 17) was absolutely horrified at the “prank.” So it’s not a cultural norm, much as the OP would like it to be.
So if it was “only friends kissing in the dark”, then why would you go after someone who did it to a person you cared about? :dubious:
I hope you forwarded it to the mods. That was disturbing.
Shagnasty, not all women are so fond of Fifty Shades of Grey (In fact, quite a number find it disturbing). And it’s not “fascination” with rape. It’s disgust.
You need some serious help, of the professional variety. For your own sake and that of others.
Shagnasty, why do you:
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Threaten revenge against a member of this message board?
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Threaten revenge against a woman whom you dated?
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Continue to crow about sexually assaulting a woman?
If you believe that these behaviours are disturbed, then you should seek professional help to try to get yourself in order.
If you believe that these behaviours are not disturbed and in fact are appropriate, then you should seek professional help to try to get yourself in order.
Either way, you’ll be doing a favour to yourself and to others if you seek professional help to try to get yourself in order.
I wanted to confirm that what bobkitty posted is consistent with what I saw before the post was edited.
To be fair, better to quickly delete a remark like that than to leave it. But that’s not the sort of thing I think people say in the first place when talking about an incident from their past that they are really very sorry about and sincerely regret having done.
I am not dangerous. I am a single father of two daughters and a professional. I am not going to hurt anyone. It is the accusations that irritate the crap out of me. I was the one that did something dumb when I was a teenager and made the mistake of posting it on this board. The story took on a life of its own and follows me decades later.
Yes, I wished I never was such a dumbass to go for such a thing but it is also outrageous for people to call me a rapist (there is absolutely no sex or nudity in that story) or threaten to call the police when there are no real victims. It was just a poor decision when I hadn’t even graduated high school yet. It was simply a one time thing that I was talked into (remember I was just 17) and the end result was kissing under false pretenses. I didn’t enjoy it and I am not proud of it but I don’t think that is the crime of century. It gets weird when people take this story so seriously. I have never done anything like it again and I think that is all that matters.
I didn’t read the post from Shags high school days but I can say I witnessed thing in high school involving supposedly good boys that went far past the line, involving girls that had too much to drink or had mixed pills and booze. This behavior was common place to the point where if a girl got into that situation it was almost a sure thing she would be violated. Young boys use poor judgement on a regular basis. As far as I know most of these same boys grew up to be responsible adults. Hopefully they felt some guilt over what they did and didn’t do it again, I just don’t know about that.
Being a single father and a professional does not exempt you from being dangerous. There are serial killers that had / have spouses and families. They are often upstanding members of society (doctors, etc). So I’m not sure what you’ve trying to prove here.
I and others in this thread have asked you some very good questions. You’re avoiding answering them because you can’t justify your actions and you know it. And now you’re threatening other board members. Does that make you feel like a big man?
When you post things like this, people are going to find it hard to believe you aren’t someone to avoid.
And as I said before, so you love your kids – what do you want, a medal? You’re supposed to love your kids. You don’t get brownie points for doing things you’re supposed to do.
Can you justify all your actions when you were a teenager? I don’t know anyone that can. I am certain I am not a child molester and/or serial killer either. These accusations get very dumb, extremely quickly. I already said I was sorry. All I want these days is a date to be nice to me. The pile-on in this thread has been incredible. Who know that we had so many Jesus disciples here?
I didn’t threaten anyone personally. I have been here for 17 years. What I meant was that someone can get warnings or be banned for legal threats but I deleted it quickly because I will let the moderators handle it. It wouldn’t work anyway because there is nothing to show but the SJW brigade has slow days too so they have to find an outlet for some outrage.
Here is a radical idea. How about some kindness and an attempt to understand what people are saying? I don’t think a friends kissing case from decades ago is going to get very far in Texas or Louisiana. Why don’t we just try to be nice to each other and not express false outrage? The only women I go out with these days volunteered for it and pay for the matching service.
You…do…realize it’s not an accusation when someone takes what you said on multiple occasions as the truth, right? Accusation != confession
So when you say the story took on a life of it’s own, were you lying then? Or were you lying now. Because the original version of the story has you very clearly raping her. Now, it’s just like something out of an Archie comic book with kisses and cuddles (and her not noticing for 20 minutes) but skeevier.
The woman in the first version of the story who you raped-by-deception was certainly a victim.
In the new “Lookit-me-I’M the victim here” version you’re telling today, she was still taken advantage of in a spectaularly gross way. She consented to lip lock your friend for 20+ minutes. She never once consented to touch you.
I’m also curious as to how, in the first thread you went from <Tee-Hee!> “I just know that it was a perfect joke” to, in the current version, “I’M the REAL victim.”
Seriously dude. Based on this story alone, not to mention dozens of other gross, racist (your “black mammy”), sick stories (your armpits smell like “vagina” and snorting them makes you feel all hawt and making guys smell your finger after you rubbed them in your pits and fooling them would be sooper-hot <barf> ) that you’ve told, I certainly wouldn’t leave any young women in my care around you.
It’s not that you’re an “online dating addict” that’s the problem here. Focusing on that would be like complaining about a hangnail on a gangrenous foot.
What exactly won’t go well for me? What possible power do you think you have over any part of my life? I am all ears.
A good litmus test of whether they are responsible adults or feel some guilt? Do they post it on a message board chortling about how it was “the perfect joke”? That’ll give you your answer right there.
IANAL, but I saw nothing in Nawth Chucka’s post that could in any way constitute a legal threat against you. But I see what could be considered junior modding in your unedited comment.
First of all, I never violated someone sexually when I was a teenager.
Second, I’m not calling you a serial killer. I am saying that being a father and a professional means absolutely nothing when it comes to assessing if someone is dangerous or not.
Third, nice attempt at backpedaling on the threats.
Fourth, I never called you a rapist. If we take your story at face value, you sexually assaulted someone. You violated someone. It may not have had a profound effect on the victim’s life. It may have had no effect at all. That’s not the point. The point is you are either unable or unwilling to understand that what you did was a violation. Instead you try to spin it as a terrifying situation for you and you’re the real victim here. Pretty ballsy, and laughable. Were you terrified when you rehearsed your cues with you friend, as you said in one version of the story? There was premeditation, no heat of the moment crime here. You had time to choose to do what you did, time to back out, time to change your mind. You didn’t. You violated someone.
Fifth, it is you that needs to attempt to understand what people are saying. You don’t seem to understand that in your troubles, the consistent variable is you. You are the problem, and I don’t see that ever changing due to a shocking lack of self-awareness and lack of willingness to take responsibility for your actions.