Good lord, I hope not. I’d hate to think we deserve the people who’ve been leading the country.
Pity the “hacker” (her zip code? hahaha) went and posted the password instead of looking for incriminating stuff. 4chan winning an American election would’ve been all kinds of awesome.
I guess technically it’s “wrong” but it’s such a stupid lack of protection I can’t muster up much sympathy. Plus the whole trying to avoid disclosure thing.
shrug You asked. I answered.
It was in the local papers back when he was in office. I’ll look, but their website may not go back that far.
Anonymous “hacked” Sarah Palin’s e-mail for the lulz that it has generated. They aren’t a politically motivated group.
I’m still seeing a big disconection between Zev’s comments and the thread title. It may be an honest mistake, but there’s no call to get all upset with people who find it confusing.
I’m also not ready to jump on the “both sides are bad bandwagon.” It’s not only a pointless observation, since you will always find individual people expressing heinous ideas of all sorts, it has more than a whiff of false equivalence.
As to the act itself - yeah, it’s not cool. I’m not going to get myself in a tizzy about condemning it, though.
Keep in mind that Karl Rove once bugged his own office. It’s a little convenient that nothing interesting was revealed by these ne’er do wells.
Am I the only one who thinks Anonymous didn’t do anything more than try Palin children’s names and pet names as passwords until they got in?
I’d guess that that was exactly what happened, hence why I put hacked in quotation marks.
AFAIK they used the usual password recovery stuff, hers was her zip code…the first email was the “your password has been changed”, so doubt they were guessing.
Problem was the original “hacker” posted the p/w before archiving it all, which is pretty much all the proof you need that it’s just someone trolling, not a political operative.
You were close Spartydog. The password was"popcorn".
You know what gets me. The same talking heads and their lackeys who defended this administration’s use of warrantless wiretapping and datatmining are the first to jump on the “invasion of privacy” over a yahoo account.
Hypocrites.
I already composed the following before I saw your post, Hamlet. Oh well…
Glenn Greenwald offers an interesting juxtaposition between the reaction of the right to this event and their take on issues like FISA and warrantless wiretaps:
He also takes note of the many observations from the right about the criminal nature of this act, and the calls to see the perpetrators sufficiently punished, while simultaneously recalling how few on the right cared to see the lawbreaking of the telephone companies duly punished.
Totally different. Not sure how, but I’m sure they’ll tell you.
-Joe
If recent experiences are indicative of future results, no. They won’t. They’ll just wave their hands and say “libs r’ ascared of Palin!!” or “you sure are desperate!”, or “they said the same about Reagan!”.
But actually deal with an issue? Nah. Ain’t going to happen.
You forgot “Why do you hate America?!?”
The campaign is going to get worse. The repubs swiftboated McCain when he ran against Bush. The hero was picked apart as a collaborator and a mental defective. They set the bar so low that the dems can never get there. They swiftboated a real hero ,Kerry, and found people who questioned his whole military career. It is like doctors testifying in court. You can always find an “expert” to testify against the truth if you pay well enough. This campaign has not reached that level. McCain and the repubs will get there though.
“Popcorn”? Seriously?
Who the hell uses a standard word like that as a password?
Another vote for Karl Rove. I find it somewhat far-fetched that neither the initial hacker nor subsequent accessers found anything worth the National Enquirer. Not that I’m surprised they didn’t find “OMG – I had to feed the body to my dog!” or other dramatic claim, but at this point it seems extraordinarily mundane, especially for a personal account.
I also find it surprising that the 4chan group showed such high ethics of breaking/accessing, but not really looking around/archiving. Good thing one of them changed the password so quickly! Isn’t electronic privacy and duplicity (using personal email for gov. business) rather up their ally chaos-wise?
And if her password were so simple on that account, why didn’t any other account linked to her (what, they wouldn’t have been referenced in the email? Not as discernable as gov.palin@yahoo?) come under instant dictionary attack? Palin thought to change all those as quickly?
All the above is tenuous, and largely framed by my expectations and outlook as to what kind of a monster Rove is. I’m not trying to persuade anyone that it must have been him, just using the Pit to vent a bit. It could very well have been innocent. But it is my opinion that if it weren’t Rove himself (or a direct operative), there was the advice to clean out a personal account, change the password to something simple, and wait to play Gotcha Ya with the press. “See, there was nothing incriminating – therefore she is exonerated!”
<.< >.>
*off to change passwords
Article analyzing passwords obtained from a phishing attack on Myspace.
“Monkey.” Heehee.