[moving my post to the appropriate Pit thread]
I’ve seen a few scenes from Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park on YT. They were so laughably bad that I couldn’t imagine anyone genuinely liking the movie.
Any movie you can laugh at isn’t irredeemably terrible, even if it’s just fodder for MST3K & Co.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned The Residents.
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I basically was 12 when I saw it and I found it hilarious… still do sadly.
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Early horror/sci-fi films were pretty awful, especially by today’s standards. The Blob, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Bride of the Monster: all barely watchable, even when they were new.
Man! I’m a fan of every single one of those films. They are all highly entertaining, even if just for the schlock value. And Invasion of the Body Snatchers? That’s one of the most important and critically acclaimed Science Fiction films in movie history.
Many of those films work better if you put yourself in the mindset of the 50s - fear (the Bomb) and paranoia (the Commies are plotting to take over.) The final line from The Thing From Another World was the famous “Keep watching the skies,” and of course Kevin McCarthy’s “You’re next! You’re next!” in Invasion of the Body Snatchers - which would have been the final line except the studio insisted the producers tack on a more optimistic ending.
And if you still can’t appreciate them, I agree with @Elmer_J.Fudd those films are loaded with shlock value.
Count yourself lucky. People my age haven’t been able to unhear it for 58 years.
If you like to sing, it’s a banger to wail along with, especially in the car. And even though it came out when I was in high school I find that I can still remember the words to it. Probably helps that I was going through a blistering spell of suicidal ideation when it was popular.
I can give you Body Snatchers, but the others were just really. . .bad. Bad directing, bad scripting, bad acting. They’ve gained some fandom because it’s fun to laugh at all of that, but they’re still just bad films.
I saw them when they were new and thought they were stupid.
Afternoon Delight is cheesy af but not horrible. Even Melanie hated Brand New Key (although the version by the Wurzels has a certain charm).
For those of you unfamiliar with the Wurzels, that’s an exaggerated West Country accent (the West Country being quite agricultural and “rustic”). The stereotypical pirate accent is an offshoot of it.
I’ve avoided the film but I did read the book and it was sufficiently diverting scifi pulp fiction for me to read the whole thing. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, mind you.
Paul Rudd seems to love it.
Some of it, yes. It’s not all the same quality.
I mean, it’s not some you listen to to relax, but I’ve enjoyed listening to Berg’s Wozzeck or Schoenberg’s Pierrot Lunaire or Romitelli’s An Index of Metals when in the right mood. And don’t even get me started on Barbara Hannigan’s performance of Ligeti’s Mysteries of the Macabre with Simon Rattle conducting - technical brilliance and comedic timing rapped up in one absolutely mad concert.
I have a friend who loathes Caillou with the power of a thousand burning suns.
I’ve watched all of it. And I regret it.
If you are interested, here is my discussion thread about “zero star” or “hated” movies.
See, now I said Vampire Girl vs Frankestein Girl in that thread and I have to think that it is beyond redemption for almost anyone. I will post a deeply offensive screenshot from it in spoiler tag below.
I think there are others, like Puppet Master 8: Legacy, but Vampire Girl vs. Frankenstein Girl is to me the worst film I’ve seen all the way through.
I think you and I can find common ground in hating The Queen of Outer Space. Critics decided it was a parody, satire, or straight-out comedy, but the studio spent too much money for a joke.
Whereas for me, that was the book that taught me the lesson that “Yes, if a book is really that bad, it’s OK to just put it down and never finish it, because sometimes bad books just never get any better”.
Neil Gaiman* also praised the book for being fairly well done. Mission Earth, however, is supposed to be embarrassingly bad. It is a 10-part juvenile book series, anti-gay jokes included.
Scientology released it and claimed it sold well, but I’ve never read a good review.
*I’m aware of allegations against him, unrelated to this post
I’m still not sure if they were supposed to be serious, or whether it was an elaborate joke?
Because this is the Dope, I’m going to ask, how are we defining “terrible”? Because I think everyone would agree that Plan 9 and The Room were very poorly made. But they were so poorly made that they became unintentionally funny, which is what their fans like about them.
So, if terrible simply means poorly made, I think we would all agree that those movies are terrible. But if it means no entertainment value whatsoever, that’s where people are going to disagree.