Is there any SONG that we ALL would agree is good (if not great)?

Here’s a proposal: a thread discussing songs should only feature things that are inarguably songs. If there’s even the slightest chance that your suggestion might reasonably not be considered a song, don’t suggest it.

I certainly hope they do!

They even named their airport after Tom Jobim:

If I had to choose just one song of his though, it wouldn’t be The Girl from Ipanema, simply because of overplaying…I’d go with “The Waters of March” as sung by Elis Regina and Tom Jobim. Followed closely by “Dindi”
Those two aren’t as familiar to as many people though.

Heh. Just realized what I did here.

Let me rephrase: I’m not familiar with the Genesis piece and don’t have time right now to listen to it.

If I have anything to say as OP I am against that: If you want to discuss whatever in the context of songs, good or bad, you may as well discuss whether something is a song or not. And the concept of inarguability is deeply un-Dope-ian.

Sorry, the part I quoted seemed to imply that you thought those who went against the mainstream tastes were doing so simply out of being a contrarian. If that wasn’t the intent, then I misunderstood. Please accept my apologies.

For those unfamiliar, here is the song.

There is a documentary on their collaboration on an album, called Elis & Tom. She was a troubled soul who died much to young, but her performances are well worth seeking out.

OK, who doesn’t like this one? I dare you!

No worries. There are songs which were heavily played when I was young that I always found schmaltzy and unbearable. Some of the ones mentioned here. Other things like “The Politics of Dancing”.

Contrarianism is a thing. But I am very prepared to believe people genuinely dislike songs. Like Kokomo. I like it. It’s one of Seinfekd’s favourite songs too for what that’s worth (i.e. nothing).