Is there any SONG that we ALL would agree is good (if not great)?

Here’s a proposal: a thread discussing songs should only feature things that are inarguably songs. If there’s even the slightest chance that your suggestion might reasonably not be considered a song, don’t suggest it.

I certainly hope they do!

They even named their airport after Tom Jobim:

If I had to choose just one song of his though, it wouldn’t be The Girl from Ipanema, simply because of overplaying…I’d go with “The Waters of March” as sung by Elis Regina and Tom Jobim. Followed closely by “Dindi”
Those two aren’t as familiar to as many people though.

Heh. Just realized what I did here.

Let me rephrase: I’m not familiar with the Genesis piece and don’t have time right now to listen to it.

If I have anything to say as OP I am against that: If you want to discuss whatever in the context of songs, good or bad, you may as well discuss whether something is a song or not. And the concept of inarguability is deeply un-Dope-ian.

Sorry, the part I quoted seemed to imply that you thought those who went against the mainstream tastes were doing so simply out of being a contrarian. If that wasn’t the intent, then I misunderstood. Please accept my apologies.

For those unfamiliar, here is the song.

There is a documentary on their collaboration on an album, called Elis & Tom. She was a troubled soul who died much to young, but her performances are well worth seeking out.

OK, who doesn’t like this one? I dare you!

No worries. There are songs which were heavily played when I was young that I always found schmaltzy and unbearable. Some of the ones mentioned here. Other things like “The Politics of Dancing”.

Contrarianism is a thing. But I am very prepared to believe people genuinely dislike songs. Like Kokomo. I like it. It’s one of Seinfekd’s favourite songs too for what that’s worth (i.e. nothing).

Well, it’s got a really simple bass line for a song that Jamerson is playing on…

(throws a ninja smoke bomb, then runs and hides)

(No, that’s not really a vote against it, but I was surprised at how easy the bass line was when I figured it out.)

Hehe, that’s one that I kind of liked just because it was so damn declarative, and my teen aged brain couldn’t wrap itself around the idea of dancing being political. But yeah, they did play the hell out of it.

I endorse “My Girl”.

She’d be pissed if I didn’t.

There was a Tom Petty in the poll. I know I voted for it.

Wish you were here

Great song,

great lyrics

Great Melody

great band

doesn’t get better than that.

Oh good, I’m not alone!

It’s musically interesting, but the lyrics sum to “I killed someone in cold blood, feel sorry for me because I just ruined MY life!”

Many people interpret that line as Freddie Mercury coming out as homo- or bisexual (replace “killed” with “fucked”). Another line in that vein is “Anyway the wind blows doesn’t really matter to me”.

True: we know he was still investing in the slave trade in 1754, and that he became an active abolitionist in 1787. We don’t know when he ceased profiting from the slave trade, and we don’t know when he actually changed his mind about it.

But I would consider that irrelevant. Having been openly involved in the slave trade for years, who the devil cares when he changed his mind if he kept it to himself or maybe a small circle of friends? Until he publicly renounced that part of his past, it’s meaningless to anyone but him. The rest of us can go with 1787.

Given the Dope’s demographics, I wasn’t going to bother to nominate Chappell Roan’s “Red Wine Supernova” (2023).

For awhile, it kept popping up for some reason on YouTube’s suggestions for what I might click on next. I listened to it once, and I’ll confess it didn’t do much for me.

I dislike Foreigner and their overwrought music and vocals just in general, and this song is as good an example of those characteristics as I can think of.

I mean, the title doesn’t exclude racists and misogynists. My suggestion is Tag Team’s “whomp there it is”. I feel an inoffensive pop song that is instantly recognizable and gets everyone moving is the only hope for unanimous acceptance. It’s either Whomp there it is or Outkasts “hey ya!”. Would have added Sir Mix Alot’s “baby got back”, but i think some people might take offense.

Good luck in finding a girl named Brandy who actually likes this song.

And for an encore, find a girl named Jenny who likes “867-5309.”

I could go along with “Here Comes the Sun” as a possibly universally liked song.

Also, Springsteen’s “Born to Run” doesn’t seem to have been mentioned in this thread, so I’ll toss it into the mix.

ETA:

The vocals of whoever sings the verses are so mushmouthed that I’ve never been able to figure out their lyrics, no matter how many times I heard it back in the day.