He’s not good enough to start, but I figured he’d get picked up as a backup to a good run option QB. More teams are willing to get guys like RGIII, Newton, and Kaepernick and build offences around them. So they’ll be looking for guys who can come in seamlessly when #1 goes out with a concussion. I would think Tebow would fit better in these backup situations than a traditional planted pocket passer.
I mean is Alex Smith gonna stick around in SF next year? I’m betting no. I could see Tebow as a viable backup to a really good running QB like Kaep. Though Harbaugh is too disciplined to want to put up with the media circus that comes along with Tebow.
To me, he’s never going to be an NFL QB in the way we think of QB’s now.
And to be honest, I am very curious as to whether he will receive another contract once his first rookie contract expires.
But to answer the question, no he’s not a very good prototypical QB. Which means the only thing I can see him doing is handing off or running the ball.
But as a passer, he is very bad mechanically. And I say this as a Steeler fan who watched Tebow beat the Steelers in last years playoffs with a long throw. But over the long haul of a season, I can’t see him becoming a QB the team or city can rally behind.
Unless, of course, he wins. Which is what he’s done everywhere. So, if I were the Jets, I would play him every down of every game he is healthy and see where we end up. Because Marc Sanchez, who I like as a person and a QB, just isn’t cutting it in NYC, so what do the Jets have to lose? Well, I’ll tell you! The Jets coaches have their jobs to lose. And if a coach puts Tebow in, and like the rest of the world thinks, he starts stinking out the place, NYC fans will kill both him and Ryan (figuratively) in the press.
I don’t see a coach doing that. The only way he gets on the field is if the starting QB GETS HURT (like in Denver) and the only way he stays on the field is if he wins (like in Denver). The only way he keeps his starting job, is if he wins, and the GM thinks he can win with Tebow. Elway didn’t think he was the answer, so he traded him to the Jets.
I watched the Jets all year, and people were screaming to take Sanchez out. Sanchez isn’t bad, but he’s very inconsistent, and he’s never developed after a promising start. The jets never gave Tebow a chance to shine, and that was by design. They don’t want him to succeed, because starting a QB controversy in the middle of the season with a guy like Tebow is not good for your job. Mike Tannenbaum, the GM of the Jets was fired this year, and I think one of the final straws was the trading for Tebow.
I think it is a bit ironic that the Broncos made it further in the playoffs last year with Tebow than they did this year with Mr. Regular Season himself, Peyton Manning. HA!!! Tebow must have loved that Denver loss this year. For the record, I don’t think the Broncos would have come close to staying in the game with Tebow at QB this year, but it doesn’t matter now, does it?
I think this is Ryan’s last year in NY if he doesn’t win. If the Jets start slow, (or Sanchez gets hurt) Tebow will get his chance.
The guy can play football, though. He is as big as a truck and can run over people. Put him in the backfield and you may have another John Riggins!
Also, wonder how his reads are. Good quarterbacks can read the field from touchdown to checkdown and do it quickly. Poor quarterbacks have favorite receivers they fixate on and make poor decisions when deciding where to throw the ball.
Wha? Huh? Did I miss something, because it certainly seemed to me that the Jets had a full blown QB controversy for almost the entire year. Why not start Tebow to avoid something that is already going on. And the entire coaching staff would be much more likely to keep their jobs if the Jets won, not because of keeping Tebow in the bench. This idea that Tebow wasn’t playing because he would be bad for the coaches is only true in the sense that he sucks and they would lose more games with him. It’s not because they didn’t want him to succeed, his success would have meant more job security not less.
That was the owners’ call, not Tannenbaum’s. Tannenbaum was fired because of Sanchez, not Tebow.
Probably. Tebow himself was trying to fix his throw before his combine, and his coaches have been working on it for years.
You see that he does make an effort at better mechanics in the pre-season (and those passes were actually out pretty fast and looked halfway serviceable), but it’s always eventually broken down during the season.
Unless he’s improved drastically this year, his reads aren’t horrible but not good, either. He’s typically needed absolutely gob-stoppingly wide open receivers to throw and was more likely to take off on the run when his first or second reads aren’t available.
Interestingly none of those teams has an option-type QB as a backup. There’s not much reason they would want Tebow over a decent regular QB because he’s not as good as Griffin and Newton and Kaepernick. If he were, he’d be starting and the Broncos’ offense wouldn’t have been so crummy when he was the starter.
No, you wouldn’t.
They made it to the same point in the playoffs. Tebow’s team won a wild card game and lost in the divisional round, Manning’s team got a first-round bye and lost in the divisional round in double OT.
Of course it matters. The Broncos have Peyton Manning at QB and they expect to have a good team with a strong quarterback for several more years. Tebow can’t get on the field even though the Jets stink and their starting QB is one of the worst in the league.
Maybe it WAS Woody, and he’s now pointing fingers at someone else.
Regardless, it’s pretty clear that NOBODY wants to be labelled as the guy who brought Tebow to New York, and you’re right- that IS interesting (and telling).
At this stage, I just don’t see anybody in the NFL wanting to sign Tebow, at any price. All along, I thought Tebow’s best hope was to be drafted in the 3rd or 4th round by a playoff-caliber team that didn’t need him to start right away, where he could quietly try to improve his skills, and where the team could find some creative ways to use his talents.
But now? We pretty much KNOW he can’t be a conventional NFL quarterback, we know he won’t be worth anywhere near the money he now gets, and we know that he’ll generate a media circus wherever he goes. Why would any team want to bring him aboard now?
Heck, at this point, even a Canadian team would have to figure he’s more of a media headache than he’s worth.
Here’s my take on how things played out, And this is based only on what I saw and read about the Jets, I have no inside info. But the Jets get Tebow in a trade. Now, when that happened, that automatically started a QB controversy. Why trade for the starting QB of another team if you don’t plan to use him and/or start him? I dont know if Rex Ryan had alot or a little or no input in bringing Tebow in, but after every Jets loss this year, in his press conference he would talk about the new offensive “wrinkles” coming with Tebow. And week after week, they never happened. Why?
Because, when the Jets saw what they had in Tebow, they knew the trade was a mistake and they were never going to give hima legitimate chance to beat out Sanchez. Because he would never beat out Sanchez. So, they didn’t put together any sort of package for Tebow to run and be successful because they did t want a full-blown QB controversy if they coud avoid it. If Sanchez got hurt, that’s one thing. You would be forced, like the Broncos were, to stick Tebow in and cross your fingers. but as long as Sanchez was healthy, no way did they want to see Tebow having a great game at QB, and hae to deal with the media nonsense for the next week on who was going to start. They KNEW Tebow sucked. But they can’t come right out and say it.
Finally, when they DID make a change at QB, they put in the third stringer. That tells me that:
the Jets coaching staff had no confidence in Tebow.
the Jets coaching staff NEVER had any confidence in Tebow, and therefore never botherd to create an offensive package that could have helped him succeed (like the Broncos did).
the Jets would be looking to deal Tebow ASAP after the season is over.
If you remember, the Broncos went into the Playoffs and won a game with Tebow at QB. And the Boncos were so thrilled with him tht they traded him as fast as they could and signed Manning. You have a GM/VP (or whatever his title is) in John Elway, who saw Tebow everyday in practice and knew, despite the winning, that it was a fluke, and he wasn’t going to kill the Denver franchise for the next 5-10 years with Tebow as his QB. So he trades a playoff winning QB and goes after a free agent. THAT’S how bad Tebow is.
In my opinion, Tebow is a coach killer. If you play him, every week you will die for 3 quarters for sure, and he may or may not win the game for you in the 4th. He did have success with the Broncos, but I am pretty sure that EVERYONE in the Bronco organization knew how lucky they were to get that run out of Tebow. So, you will either die of a heart attack, or you will be fired for saying he’s your QB and you want to play him as your starter. That’s why I said I don’t think the Jets staff ever wanted to see him have some short term success on the field… They knew it wouldn’t be sustained, and SOMEONE would be responsible for bringing Tebow in. And guess what? Tannenbaum made the trade.. That was the last straw that broke the camels back. He was fired for many reasons, but I’m guessing that once Woody Johnson saw what they traded for, he had to question Tannenbaum’s talent evaluation capabilities.
Even if, as you say, Johnson forced Tannenbaum to make the trade, he had to fire him for not talking him out of trading for Tebow. Johnson can’t fire himself.
That’s not how I remember it. As GM, Tannenbaum makes trades, not the owner. I don’t remember Woody Johnson forcing that trade. if I’m wrong, I’m sure someone will let me know. But as I mentioned above, Johnson can’t get rid of himself, and someone had to pay for trading for Tebow. Tannenbaum had other questionable personnel moves that gave Johnson the ability to chop him without too much fan grumbling.
I guarantee you that Tebow will not be a Jet next year. If they can’t trade him, he will be cut. And I doubt anyone will pick him up with the idea that he will be the starting QB. Because his mechanics are THAT bad. You can’t depend on a fluke great throw to win every game. If you hae ever watched Tebow for 4 quarters, he is an awful passer.
With all that said, I will say this about Tim Tebow. He has won everywhere he has played and has been given a legitimate chance. Personally, I think his run in Denver was a fluke, but who knows? With the right coaching staff, he could be utilized somehow on offense. Maybe as an H-back or tight end… He can run, he’s strong as an os, and he can bowl people over. And he know how to win.
I suspect he will get a shot playing full-time QB In Canada (Maybe!), and that’s where he ends up next year. If he stays around the NFL, and is only wiling to play QB, he will be holding a clipboard for some team next year.
I guess I should have read the updates to the thread before composing my opus. Oh well. Assuming these reports are correct, I was right about Tannenbaum.
I read that Jacksonville has no interest in Tebow. He was a football god down there, so if they have no interest, that is not good. He would be a gate attraction for sure.
I was surprised the Jaguars’ GM came so close to saying no way to Tebow. I guess Jacksonville’s situation is really similar to that of the Jets: they’ve invested a couple of years in a young quarterback who hasn’t developed like they hoped he would, and they need to figure out if he’ll be any good or if they need to draft another QB. (Which they might do anyway.) Picking up Tebow would just muddy the waters even if they sold more tickets.
Oh God no. Ottawa is going to be getting an expansion CFL franchise very soon. They will be digging in the scrap heap for quarterbacks. I’m going to be stuck cheering for a team with Tebow at QB…
