Just to go on record, and as others have said similar things, this is my feeling too as of now. And the fact that the interests do coincide means that Trump is an asset. It doesn’t necessarily mean he is an agent of Russia, and I wish I had used that term in the OP.
This is one of the things where I smacked my head and said to myself “Well of course.”
What’s the best way to give money to a hotel owner if you want to gain favor as well as keep it above board? You reserve a bunch of rooms, then don’t use them.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763
Even though you are “out”, I would still ask exactly how you define “stooge”? As for Trump using such tools to hide evidence, no doubt that is true. That does not mean documentary evidence of blackmail is *necessarily * there, even though there is that possibility. He might be trying to hide something else.
What I am looking for is why people believe Trump may be being blackmailed by Putin and/or other foreign powers. Thanks for stating your case using something other than a link and saying, here, go see for yourself. I can’t have a discussion with a link.
Now, you say you can’t prove any of that. By the same token, I can’t disprove it. So let’s assume this pretty much nails what Trump has been doing with the Russians all these years. I am not clear if you think Trump behaves in the way he does because he knows Putin has the goods on him and that is enough to explain it, or if Putin is actively blackmailing him. Whatever the case is, it seems that people who have been posting here think the former is more likely. Fine. As I alluded to in the OP, finding direct evidence of blackmail will be difficult, so I am happy to just drop that part if no one else has any comments. Either way.
“Your Honor, yes, my client was found in the kitchen of his house, cooking the bodies of his family, the tools of the crime found hidden in his backyard. But nobody saw him butcher them, did they?”
“Damn, man. You got me. Case dismissed!”
Don’t imagine this, because you don’t have to. You just did it: You, making a false implication that I think I know more than the Chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. It was something I noticed, and I made no other claims about it.
If you want to discuss this without the mockery, then let’s do it. Otherwise, what’s the point?
My worthless two pennies:
We are never going to truly know if he is or not. I would imagine that people high in the Defense Department and stuff like that have an idea whats going on, but I don’t think that the nation as a whole benefits from outing him as a slime ball in cahoots with the KGB.
If they find something bad or are in the middle of something bad, I would imagine he gets kicked out over some tax stuff or money stuff that ISN’T tied to the KBG or DRPK or some other sinister letters. Or maybe he needs to retire or has a health reason to bail. Why would we advertise that any country with a few tens of thousand dollars can put Larry, Moe, or Curly in the White House? That doesn’t sound wise to me to let it out, true or not.
Being sure this time to put the emoji outside of the quote:
:rolleyes:
Not worthless at all, since you make an actual point. And I would agree that it’s unlikely info would come out now. This seems like on of those instances that if it happened, it will come out only decades from now, say when classified info is released.
LOL, your second quoted post literally denies the House Foreign Affairs Committee’s letter on what is happening, and then you accuse me of making a “false implication” that you know better than Chairman Engle?
And you have been given what you are looking for.
People people believe Trump may be being blackmailed by Putin and/or other foreign powers because his actions are indistinguishable from someone who is being blackmailed by Putin and/or other foreign powers.
There is strong evidence that Trump laundered dirty Rubles via his Atlantic City casino.
I doubt that Putin and Trump have conspired to do anything.
I do not doubt that Putin has fed Trump bullshit that would encourage Trump to behave (more) stupidly.
Putin is too smart to actually engage Trump in a way that Trump might invoke Putin’s name while either proposing something evil or trying to throw Putin under the bus for an action in which Trump was caught.
What’s the evidence?
Sometimes the perception overtakes the reality and it becomes a question of what the subjects responses are on the ground. trimp is acting like he is being “kept,” even after it has been pointed out that he needs to go easier on the putin love. The only way to understand it is to prepare for the worst and investigate his behavior down to the last twitch.
Pfft, that’s only evidence if you believe it.
turnp is not strong or dependable enough to enter into a conspiracy with putin. But the “feeding him BS” explanation isn’t adequate. There is a middle way and it is all about trpnis ambition to be a “populist” leader and his naivete about a lot of other things. he is emulating and chasing the populist anti-democratic movements all over the world under putins sponsorship. He is bound to an electoral base who are putins base too in effect. Putin feeds him BS that strokes his narcissism about being the disruptor of the US government. DT has made many many antidemocratic statements since we have known about his “friendship” with vlad. This feels like coercion/pressure and not just feeding bs to an idiot. He gestures towards this constantly, (Pushing nato leaders out of the way etc. etc.) like he is obsessive compulsive.
Trumps base is putins base, for the US. It is his only religion. He is thinking of them all the time, and it’s guiding his bad decisions one after the other.
And this CNN article ties the money laundering to Russia.
FWIW, HurricaneDitka asked for evidence of money laundering in a different thread a year and a half ago.
He was provided these exact links (and more) by these exact posters and never acknowledged receiving them or reading them.