Yes, they said it was unprofessional. They didn’t say it put him in a questionable light, which I took to mean you thought it was questionable from a moral standpoint.
No, I was only thinking it was ethically questionable.
Can you point to the difference between morals and ethics please ?
(careful, it’s a trap !)
I think I’ll pass.
How about the distinction you make between your “ethically questionable” and Marley’s “questionable from a moral standpoint” then ?
I don’t even care if it’s under oath.
You’re the one who would have to explain why he hasn’t. Weiner has no burden of proof.
This word of yours - “unprofessional”- it has no objective meaning. It’s just you grasping at straws. You really think every politician who’s ever used a curse word is acting “unprofessionally?” Are you kidding?
How about when GWB got caught on video calling a journalist a “major league asshole?” Unprofessional? How about Cheney saying, “go fuck yourself” on the floor of the Senate?
Like many words, no precise universally agreed-on meaning, sure. But it’s in widespread use, with some reasonable consensus on what’s implied. For example, when you go to the Post Office you don’t expect to hear cuss words from the clerk, and she has a reasonable expectation not to hear them from you.
I’m inclined toward the view that the only reasonable relationship between a congressman and a random high school student who contacts him is a professional one, which tends to frown on words like “shit” - especially from the congressman.
I’m of the view that it’s utterly trivial whether or not elected politicians say the word “shit” in private conversations.
And I have already said that I think his lying violates the Code of Ethics. His asking others to lie for him - and lying to his friends so they would support him - also would qualify.
But it is of course not I but those conducting the ethics inquiry that will actually have to do this.
Probably not too important, especially since the relevant Code of Ethics makes prominent mention of “moral principals”.
So, “illegal” isn’t the bar you’re setting anymore.
Pelosi and DNC chair call on Weiner to step down.
Here’s the full Code of Ethics. I’m sorry, but Weiner’s lying does not violate it in the way you’re saying. It doesn’t say ‘adhere to the strictest moral principles.’ It says ‘put loyalty to your own morals and the country ahead of your loyalty to your colleagues, party, or agency.’ He acted like a dope, but he didn’t hurt the country for the sake of helping his party or someone else in Congress.
You’ve expressed a very weak case. All politicians lie constantly.
In addition to Pelosi and DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Steve Israel, also called for him to step down.
Weiner “departed this morning to seek professional treatment”. You know… for that innocent online flirting that is no big deal at all.
I’m not sure what kind of medical treatment he needs other than “don’t talk about your dick with strangers and don’t show them pictures of it, you moron.”
I clearly stated that even illegality was not necessarily a problem for me. There is no “anymore.” I never set this “bar” you speak of.
It isn’t a big deal. Not a single human being on the planet actually cares. This is all just political theater.