[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
You can like it or not, but the Israeli-Palestinian conflict started with massive jewish immigration to Palestine after first world war and the creation of Israel. A creation that resultet in ethnic cleansing, genocidial actions and a brutal occupation, - and that’s nothing to celebrate
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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The creation of Israel was thirty years after WWI ended. Put THAT in your pipe-and stick it up your ass.
Bolding mine. Are you sure that’s what it “resultet” in? Maybe you’d be more comfortable posting in your native language. Don’t worry about a barrier, we can all read Moronic.
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Anti-Americanism tends to fill the same social niche that anti-semitism does. You hardly ever find a rabid european anti-semite who isn’t a rabid anti-american, and vice-versa.
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I.d take Fuckwits given location as Central Europe with a massive pinch of salt if I were you,there have been “several” posters putting extreme anti Western/British/European/U.S. views forward in the past giving that location,maybe it gives in his opinion some sort of spurious validity/impartiality to his hate mail rather then being honest about who he really is and where hes really from.
If he is actually in Europe at all I’ll bet he originated somewhere else but hasn’t got the guts to tell us.
[QUOTE=Sevastopol]
Probably the main difference at this point is that we have different opinions regarding the occupied peoples of the West Bank. We would agree that they do not enjoy those criteria you mention while under subjugation. “But they’re not citizens” you may cry. As you are aware, in this respect the grant or withholding of rights to civil participation is no more than a fiction to enable the Israeli state to continue in its lopsided manner.
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Goalpost-moving. My contention is that Israel’s government is better than its neighbors by the criteria mentioned, not that it was free of problems. By any of the four criteria list, can you point out another country in the area whose record is as good or better than Israel’s?
And I’m not crying anything. The Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Personally, I think they should just declare statehood over all the territory they currently have and cut their losses, but as long as they view their children as expendable, I guess they have no incentive.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
Just use the Report Post button if you feel you must and then shut the fuck up about it because the rest of us are sick of your inane whining.
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Why sir, you have changed the text inside the quote tabs. In your haste to point out where Wildfire claimed there was no holocaust, no doubt.
And I’m not crying anything. The Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Personally, I think they should just declare statehood over all the territory they currently have and cut their losses, but as long as they view their children as expendable, I guess they have no incentive.
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Let’s leave that ‘citizens’ word behind. Fact is Palestinians are governed by Israelis, who protests to the West notwithstanding, plan only to expand control and occupation of the lands. There is no intelligible measure of the Israeli governments that does not consider their treatment there.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
No, I did not. So, now you’re a liar, too.
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There’s still time on the edit window for you to revise.
To be fair, perhaps you have a reading peculiarity and must, of necessity omit the relevant heart of posts that might disturb you. You really should tell people in that case.
[QUOTE=Guinastasia]
The creation of Israel was thirty years after WWI ended. Put THAT in your pipe-and stick it up your ass.
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You will see on re-reading that Wildfire referred to the immigration as occurring post WWI.
Only an omission (as permitted by the rules) of material not relevant to post. The actual text within my quote tags is otherwise unaltered. Again, you are invited to report the post if you nevertheless feel it’s a violation, however, I’ve been around long enough to be fairly certain that nothing will come of such an action.
[QUOTE=Sevastopol]
Why sir, you have changed the text inside the quote tabs. In your haste to point out where Wildfire claimed there was no holocaust, no doubt.
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If you mean this as a serious complaint, you are a complete idiot. Q.E.D. did not change anything “within the quote tags.” There is no requirement to quote an entire post when replying to it.
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
I think it’s highly improper and immoral for Israel to celebrate their 60 year long existence.
They have indeed little to celebrate consider all the death and misery their existence have caused. Ethnic cleansing, -genocide, -brutal occupation with humiliation and grinding poverty for the original population is the result of this jewish creation.
60 years!! - Certainly nothing to celebrate in my mind.
I have doubts that they will celebrate their 100 birthday ? :dubious:
So, … is it morally right for this entity (which some calls a nation) to celebrate ?
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