Israel, and the USA as of June 21, 2025, strikes dozens of targets in Iran, including nuclear program

He posted a Tweet a bit ago thanking Iran for the heads up, emphasizing how harmless the attack was, and expressing hope that now that Iran got this “out of their system” they’ll come back to the table.

Hebrew news is reporting signaling from other sources in the US and in Israel that if Iran is ready for a new deal with no enrichment, one can be signed.

Yep

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html

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Isn’t the worry here that Iran is simply playing for time? While there’s no definitive answer to how far back their nuclear programme has been set, surely Israel won’t be content to pause their efforts?

Great point and worth discussion but not here since this is a “breaking news” thread (something I have forgotten here more than once).

Try this thread for that question: The 2025 Israel vs Iran and geopolitical implications thread - #142 by Babale

ETA: Did I just junior mod? :man_facepalming:

I commented on this in the other thread, in Politics & Elections.

Trump announces a ceasefire.

Does that include Israel too or is he saying the US will not bomb Iran anymore?

He says Iran will stop all attacks in 12 hours, Israel 12 hours after that, and then peace 24 hours later. We shall see.

No mention of the US so presumably no more strikes are planned.

Any negotiations now should include an accounting of all the nuclear material and for Iran to stop their proxies from launching rockets; otherwise, I fear we will see this again in a few years.

Iran tells Reuters, ceasefire is real.

Yours is one reasonable interpretation of Trump’s Truth Social post, but others are possible: To me, Trump’s post is inconsistent regarding the supposed cease fire timing..

While normally I do not put much credence in Iranian government statements, this, published on CNN.com, at almost exactly the same time as Trump’s post, seems plausible:

Iran has not received any ceasefire proposal, senior official says

EDITED: Looks like I spoke too soon – Trump did not make it all up:

A senior Iranian official confirmed in a conversation with Reuters that Tehran has agreed to a U.S. proposal for a ceasefire with Israel mediated by Qatar.

Interesting to note that Qatar was not amused when the base the US has there (the one that was attacked by Iran) also has Qatari military planes and equipment.

Who the hell would agree to stop attacking and let the other side take free shots at you for twelve hours? This is idiotic even by Trump stanards.

Trump’s Truth Social post first says that the cease fire is effective in six hours for both sides. Then it says that Israel gets extra time to bomb.

As with the creation stories in Genesis 1 and 2, there is no way to reconcile these logically, unless you are a true believer. But politically, I guess it works. Going forward, Trump can say he got Israel extra time, or didn’t, whatever works for his audience..

As for what Israel and Iran agreed to, I’m not sure they agreed to anything. But maybe they were close to agreement. Trump’s a lucky guy, and may get away with what he is pulling here.

I have five minutes to pop into a thread this week, and this is the one I’d been looking for all day.

This wasn’t a bombing to stop Iran’s “nuclear weapons program.” This was a capability demonstration to the rest of the world:

"Look what we can still do, thirty-four years later . . . after Desert Storm. I didn’t just send one bomber, I sent seven and stopped a ‘program’. Russia, China, take notice, and you better play nice with us . . .

The pretext of Iran’s nuke program was just that . . a pretext.

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I’ve got echoes of 2003 in my head now.

You know, that’s an interesting point. Look what we can do, and where we can do it from.

Of course, the US just deployed 14 of its arsenal of 20 BABs. (Big-Ass Bomb)

Which were, we must suppose, 100% Made in America, of 100% USA-sourced materials and components.

Well, made by Boeing, presumably in America. Don’t know about the components. If they were imported, good thing it was done before the tariffs hit. Would have made the bomb far more expensive.

Apologies if this has already been linked.

AP is reporting Iran has launched a new barrage of missiles into Israel.

World’s shortest ceasefire.