I speak some European, so let me try to talk to this one:
Naxox_dec.2002,
If their trousers burn, it does not blame Israel. She is its mothers criticizes that you are not so shining, does not damage it of the Jews.
True. However, Israel is not allowed on the Security Council.
AIPAC
The law does not impose any limitations on the foreign agent’s sphere of activity, except for the requirement to report on that activity. But that’s enough of a deterrent. The pro-Israel lobby in the United States, AIPAC, is very careful to preserve its status as a local American lobby, and so far has succeeded in blocking efforts to have it labeled as a “foreign agent,” which is the status, for example, of the PLO office in Washington.
but the majority of the lobbying is being done by Christians
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2002/05/06/crusade.html
Yet Bush has never had it easy with Jewish voters: 80% of them voted against him in 2000, and some–mindful of the U.S.'s occasional clashes with the Israeli government during the older Bush’s presidency–remain skeptical about the depth of W.'s commitment to Israel. Much of the pressure on Bush to throw his full support behind Sharon is coming from elsewhere. Today the most influential lobbying on behalf of Israel is being done by a group not usually seen as an ally of the largely Democratic Jewish community: Evangelical Christians.
It wasn’t just Bibi, it was somebody else, too.
http://www.metimes.com/2K1/issue2001-11/reg/katsav_says_israel.htm
www.datelineisrael.com/sunday.htm+israel+eu+netanyahu+berlusconi&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8]Google cache. I already looked at the Post, I can’t find it offhand, besides they charge $$$ for articles.
But…
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/weog1.html
So we’re back to arguing about geography again. 
Now, that does surprise me, but according to these folks, it’s because of a bizarre quirk of the rules, combined with Israel’s rather unfortunate geographical location (i.e., surrounded by hostiles). Obviously, that’s a situation that cries out for rectifying (by changing the rules, not by moving the country… though now that I think about it, that could cure a lot of problems!).
From your link:
You call that a bizzare quirk of the rules?
You know, now that I think of it, if we weren’t at the meeting point of three fucking continents we would have had a heck of a lot less trouble over the past 3000 years.
I was referring to the requirement that a nation be part of a “regional group” before being allowed to be considered for Security Council membership. The rule should be, obviously, that any member of the UN should be eligible.
Zionism aside, for the moment, I’ve often wondered how different the world would look today if, at the end of WWII, a Jewish state had been created in, oh, say, Bavaria instead of the Middle East (also putting aside the psychological difficulties that would have presented for many of the survivors). After all, the Germans carried out the Holocaust, so why not take a chunk of their land from them? I suspect that, by now, Israel would be the economic and military powerhouse of Europe. The U.S. might well not have any particular quarrel with the Islamic countries of the Middle East. The list of “alternate” endings to the story goes on and on. Interesting, even if pointless…
I should have been clearer that I was talking about the Security Council, which is really what’s important to Israel.
I don’t know how people can argue with a straight face that there is no anti-Israel bias in the U.N. Remember the Durban conference on Racism, which broke down into a hate-spewing anti-semitic rally that forced the U.S. and Israel to pull out? And of course, the fact that Israel has been blocked from being on the Security Council, and the disproportionate number of U.N. resolutions against Israel, which once again is the only Democracy in the region, and which has been repeatedly attacked by its neighbors.
And yeah, the ‘bizarre quirk of the rules’ we’re talking about is that the regional group Israel SHOULD belong to is comprised of racist countries that hate Israel and have worked long and hard to prevent it from having representation. Some quirk.
What - exactly - do you mean by “such people”?, and why do “we” need to do anything about “them”?
does anyone else get the feeling that half of the newbies are running their posts through babelfish ATM?
Darn! And here I thought the Jewish lobby was the room inside the doors to shul where coats and hats were placed!
It’s a shame that anti-Semitism will still flare to a raging fire, given the slightest breeze.
Think of how you’d feel if you and your people were subject to the same measure of persecution!
Kiss your Bubbe and stop being a shmuck
Hey! What’s wrong with uncircumsised people? Racist!
I just decided to create Ellis’s First Law, which reads:
In any thread that mentions circumcision, no matter how vaguely, Jack Dean Tyler will be mentioned.
Anger at being uncircumcised shouldn’t be considered racist, Coldfire.
Notipposkinopenophobia?
Hmm. fear of a marching regiment of angry, circumcised penii, bearing the bris knife!
The Mohel Squad?
Oy!
However, if you do a search’n’replace on Sam Stone’s post, changing “Israel” to “Taiwan” and “Arab nations” to “China”, his post is 100% accurate. Funny world, ain’t it?
Lookm, I know Israel is a member of the U.N. Go back and look at what I had to say about the Durban conference, now and in the past. It was a brain fart. I was thinking of the Security Council.
And Taiwan should also have representation, except that its status is still under dispute. Israel’s isn’t. Taiwan still doesn’t have full recognition in a host of world organizations, such as the World Health organization and the WTO.
Well, you know what they say about real estate:
“Location, location, location.”
Sinai, which is part of Egypt, is in Asia. When you go there from Israel, you pass through Israeli border security, walk about a mile to Egyptian border security (the path is decorated with delightful signs that say “EGYPT ---->”), and voila! You’re in Egypt. I’m pretty sure that there’s no continental dividing line in that mile.
“What ever happened to the Popular Front?”
“He’s over there.”
I couldn’t say for sure. Being a seer is tricky business.