It's called an Arnold Palmer for a reason, douche.

Hell no! Our shit don’t stink, neither!

Mine too. That skit was shown during one part of an Asian-American Studies class I took.

You know what grosses me out and pretty much ensures I order nothing from a bakery here or eat any pastry whatseover the other teachers or staff at my school bring to work: Coffee and tea. It seems one or the other must be put in almost every pastry produced for local consumption. Since I don’t drink either (religious thing), I’d prefer not having it crammed into my food either.

Wow, that was just fuckin’ beautiful. I actually have tears in my eyes from laughing much.

You sir, are deserving of a golf clap.

[looks down nose]You mean a Seve Ballesteros?[/looks down nose]

I wasn’t aware of any major religion’s injunction against tea. Is it included in the LDS prohibition on stimulants?

I’ve seen what the OP is talking about, except it was with my ex-grandmother-in-law who happens to be 100% Japanese. Keep in mind, that this woman has been in the U.S. since 1957.

We’d watch baseball together, and she would insist that Ichiro Suzuki and Hideki Matsui were the best major league baseball players, hands down. At first I debated with her, by saying, “Hideki Matsui isn’t even a top 20 player. He’s good, he can hit – his fielding is marginal, though. And he does all his hitting in an all-star lineup.” Her response? “Nope, he the best.” WTF. Great argument, Mariko.

“Mariko, did you see David Ortiz hit that homer that won the game the other night?” “He no Ichiro!”

She was hell-bent on thinking that the two better Japanese players in MLB were the best in the league. I’d bring up names like So Taguchi, Tomo Okha, and Hideo Nomo. She wouldn’t comment.

Is this racism? If not, what do you call it? Ethnicism? (no matter what it is, it’s still an ism)

Provincialism?

I call it “people like certain players for inane reasons.”

But what is the reason? I think it’s more than “inane.” It’s clear that she favors Japanese baseball players over players of different ethnicities. Some would call that bigotry. I’m in that camp.

Truth is, she’s a sweet, charismatic, little old lady and who interesting perspectives on lots of things, and I enjoyed her company a great deal. But, she’s still a bigot – perhaps a product from Japanese imperialism (not that it’s an excuse, but definitely a reason).

The reason is probably that she feels she has something in common with those players.

If a woman made it to MLB, I’d root for her. Is that “sexism” that makes me a bigot?

If you’re watching the Olympics and you pull for the Americans, is that an “ism” that makes you a bigot?

Um, big difference. She’s doing more than “rooting” for them.

If you said that the first woman to the MLB was the best, discounting all evidence proving that she is, in fact, not the best, then yes, that would make you a sexist and a bigot.

I don’t see how favoring one group over another, on a personal level, is bigotry, or especially racism. Suppose I favor Japanese women over others when it comes to dating. Does that make me a bigot? How in the world is anyone harmed by being out of my dating pool?

There are certain features of Japanese women that you find appealing, whether it be in physical charactertistics or cultural. These cannot be found in another ethnicity. Your preference for Japanese women is based on that.

So, tell me, what different characteristics do baseball players have if they are of a different ethnicity?

The best at what? The best at being the one I want to root for?

There are a ton of objective measures of baseball players, but ask people who the “best” players are, or who their “favorite” players are, and they won’t be the same ones the objective measures point out. Just look at MVP voting sometime.

She had a preference for Japanese players and she was ignorant of objective standards for baseball excellence. That doesn’t make her a bigot.

Besides, by any objective standard anyone can name, Tiger Woods is a better golfer than Arnold Palmer is, so how is your anecdote proof of what the OP claims?

Well, before I even waste words, is there any possibility that you’ll see what you think you see another way?

After this and the “um,” I think I’d be happier if you didn’t waste words.

Excellent. Me too.

Or, more importantly, how is DudleyGarrett’s example at all exactly comparable (although it is similar)?

The OP was about calling a drink something other than what the OP thought it should be called and stating, unequivocably, that that indicated racism. This, in regards to a drink that: (1) sometimes has no name (iced tea and lemonade); (2) had a name because one person perhaps popularized an already existing drink mixture (Arnold Palmer); even if the name in #2 is the most popular, many people have indicated they’ve never heard of it; and/or (4) at least one post has noted that they know it as a “Darth Vader.”

Additionally, (5) had the OP stopped as soon as he recognized the original request for iced tea and lemonade and brought the requested drink combination – which was his job, none of this would have even occurred.

Assuming that your conclusion is true and this is racism, how is it relevant to the iced tea situation?

Are the customers saying that Tiger Woods is a better golfer than Arnold Palmer based solely on his race? All they seem to be saying is that they (maybe) prefer to call lemonade iced tea by Tiger Woods’s name, and it’s the OP’s deduction that it is because of Woods’s race. How is that even remotely comparable?

You do know Arnold Palmer has trademarked his name in regards to iced tea with lemonade? So unless Mr Palmer has officially licensed you to serve ice tea and lemonade under his name, you are committing an offense. This kind old lady was just trying to prevent you from breaking the law.