I guess back in the 1950s when everybody was awesome, plagiarism was considered the cool thing to do.
What a bunch of humorless pedantic fucktards we have here.
There’s nothing funny about plagiarism.
Except of course that Stanley used a liberal source to rip off the material and present it as his own (changing it for racism as necessary).
Since you asked, I don’t think that the proper convention is to attribute a quote to the actor. I usually see the character name (in this case Debra Barone).
I suppose that you don’t need to attribute it to the writer(s) of that episode, as that’s relatively obscure info (yet still a matter of public record). Plus, we can’t be sure whether the joke was written by the writers or whether the actor ad-libbed it. Attributing to the character is, IMO, a good way to handle such ambiguity.
No, back in the 1950s you couldn’t plagiarise a complete text with a few finger jabs on a mouse: you had to copy it word by word.
(And mice were warm and furry, and tended to run away when you jabbed them with their fingers back then).
Plaigarism? Seriously? You think that was the point of the post? Again… for emphasis… What a bunch of humorless pedantic fucktards we have here.
The thing is, Starving Artist is one of the chief pedantics on this board, and now he’s been hoisted on his own fucktard.
But calling him on it makes the rest of us look small.
Right.
I blame hippie liberals and their relaxing of social norms for posters now being unable to recognize the incredible irony in their own posts. That would never happen in the 50’s.
If you bitch about him missing the point of a post because of his pedantry and then turn around and do the same thing, not only are you small but a hypocrite as well.
Is that how plagiarism is determined? If it is the point of the work in question? I thought it was determined by presenting someone else’s work as your own, regardless of the “point.”
No, the point of plagiarizing is to try to take credit for something you didn’t create. I had no way of knowing where it came from at the time and so couldn’t post attribution, and for reasons stated above had no reason to think anyone would actually believe I was the one who wrote it.
I’m confident that my posting history here bears out my position. If I was inclined to that type of trickery it would have come out long before this.
One of the great things about being honest is that once you’ve put the truth out there, the onus is off your back. All I can do is tell you the truth. Whether you believe it or not is your choice and out of my control.
The fact of the matter is that people around here are cranked because of what I’ve said about how liberalism has fucked things up in this country. Nevermind that it was posted to counter their position that a person had to be EEVILLL to even vote for a Republican much less be one; and despite the fact that worse things are said about Republicans/conservatives around here a hundred or more times a day. No, we (conservatives) are just supposed to suck it up and not retailiate in kind because after all, liberals have goodness and light on their side. I did challenge them though and laid my cards on the table. Most of the ire in this thread is a reverberation of that, as is everyone’s eagerness to attribute my posting of the parody to plagiarism.
This is supposed to be the smartest message board on the planet, yes, no? You are correct that it would have been easy for me to to have said I got it in an email, but as I had no reason to think people would actually believe I wrote it the thought never occurred to me to do so. And it wouldn’t have done any good anyway. I would merely have been accused of plagiarizing it and then attempting to cover it up behind a fictitious email.
Like I said, this isn’t really about plagiarizing, it’s a gotcha for things I’ve said before. Fair enough. You can’t expect to post inflammatory stuff about liberals on a liberal board and not get burned when the opportunity arises. But don’t kid yourself that plagiarism is the real beef here.
And on preview, thanks Robot Arm. And thanks for the comment about my sister. Frankly, such low blows are so commonplace around here that I hardly noticed it.
And on further preview, thanks, Max. I’ll keep that in mind. 
And CircleofWills, thanks for pointing out the dishonesty apparent in everyone’s trying to make this an issue of plagiarism. The real issue is what I’ve had to say about the consequences of liberalism on this country’s culture. In that light the OP has really cheesed 'em off, but having no other rebuttal to what was clearly a gag, they’ve settled upon specious accusations of plagiarism as the best way to strike back.
You folks seriously can’t get through the to the point of the OP because he didn’t appropriately cite a chain email? Seriously?
Was this email peer-reviewed? Was it published in an accredited journal of chain email gags alongside the one with the promise of meeting your one true love for not breaking the chain? How can we be sure this chain email is accurate or has been researched properly. Is the chain email itself cited properly. See it all falls apart right here. How does one cite a rogue chain email without the appropriate documentation?
Right
What a bunch of humorless pedantic fucktards.
The smartest, not the most clairvoyant.
Your arguments are holding absolutely no fucking water, pal.
“I never thought that posting something that espouses every opinion that I’ve ever posted would make people think that I wrote it.”
Bullshit.
And claiming that you would have been accused of plagiarism anyway is the most pussy argument you’ve floated yet.
How do you know Joe Biden didn’t just assume that the world would know he had copied from Kinnock, and everybody was wrong to say he plagiarized (or pulling a bait and switch as far as their motives) and had just missed his point?
So, people are calling you on this because they’re misguided liberals and just always think convervatives are evil and you had to do it this way because . . . . somebody had to fight back? So why not have the courage of your convictions and fight back using your own words?
Wow. Just . . . wow.
You’re not even making sense.
And now I’m out for the day. Later.
Is there a point you had hoped to make with this parody? Heading off some possibilities, I’ll point out that the Postal Service will take a letter anywhere in the country for 42 cents, and that the Americans with Disabilities Act makes it possible for people with physical limitations to participate in public life and not stay at home to be cared for by the state.
I have to add, folks, that I’m in the odd position of wrecking the lives of plagiarists on occasion by causing them to be suspended or expelled from university, and I wouldn’t pull the trigger on **Starving Artist **for this OP.
That’s because, even with the most blatant case of plagiarism and the least amount of self-aware apologizing possible, I will recuse myself if I have had any animosity towards the foolish plagiarist, especially if that plagiarist has previously disagreed with me over non-plagiarism related matters, such as politics or taste in art.
But otherwise this would be a silly, obvious case of arrant plagiarism, and a very weak (tho’ often attempted) cliche of a defense.
Yeah yeah yeah. And I’m not tolerant of intolerant people either.
It’s not that he didn’t cite it “appropriately”–it’s that he didn’t cite it at all, or imply in any way that he wasn’t its author. The cliche of a defense that I allude to above may be termed, for want of a more precise phrase, the “Could I possibly be so stupid as not to think that someone would bust me easily and immediately on such a googleable source?” I rarely like to put myself in the position of evaluating someone’s intelligence like that, but when the question is put so directly to me, it’s very tempting. All he needed to do in order to cite this was to write “From the Onion” at any point in there, and even if his citation were shoddy and incomplete, he could claim that he did source it. But with nothing but his boldness to defend him, he goes down as a garden-variety plagiarist.
The point is who the bloody fuck cares if it was cited or plagiarized or scripted in blood from the last virgin in Sodom (who is oddly enough a.Doper too but I digress). The point is that it was a joke… a parody. Get over the horrific sin and have a laugh Jesus