^^^ I never said that the Lord does all of the work. I believe that he has the opportunity for the work to take place happen and that doing the work with his help if his help is needed is all up to us. 
Not all 145,626 of the rest of y’all who are registered to leave messages at this forum have said such a thing to me. You’ve given me your two cents and so now those who haven’t done such a thing yet can have a turn too if they want one.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly
And yet you won’t fight for our immortal souls. Like I said, disappointing and lazy.
^^^ Sadly a person can only do so much especially when its them versus someone who shows no sign of changing. 
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. Thanks to several members of my family, if there is anything that I have learned in this life, it is that people can only be helped when they want to be.
OMG, I know just how you feel!!! :eek:
^^^ And y’all think that I don’t fit in. 
God bless you always!!!
Holly
Well, you see it’s that you’re the opposite side of the coin. We fight against ignorance and you fight for it. 
Oh, you’re a real work, all right. 
Hahaha…nope. Some of us stall and stagnate in perpetuity in early development.
I’ve noticed that the more someone pushes how much of a Christian they are, the less they act like one.
Then why do you continue to do things that people have asked you not to do? Why is it that when those things are pointed out, you get childish, stamp your little foot and make pronouncements like “I don’t have to!”?
Nope. Every one of us is an individual. You are simply rude.
You just couldn’t resist, could you?
Blink.
The hell?
Do you really think the point of therapy is to make the road safer? Or to change the past?
Dayum
Yeah, when you’re dealing with the special ed. kids, you just gotta let some shit slide. 
I have never thought that therapy can do such a thing and because it can’t, how much of a help is it to anyone really? From what I can tell from an observers point of view, none. And no I could not resist.
No I fight against ignorance and you fight for it.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly
Then quit trying to involve yourself and your magical sky fairy in it. What anyone does is not your business to judge.
I guess so - I’m certainly not going to be able to understand it for sure!
^^^ What I say or do is not your business to judge either. And I don’t recall trying to involve myself in the process of someone slitting their wrists either. I am not the kind of person who is going to stand there and let someone get away with trying to kill themselves anyways. If they can’t think about the feelings of those that they are trying to leave behind, I will.
Now you know why I have let certain things slide.
God bless you two always!!!
Holly
I think we’ve established that to be a fundamentalist Christian requires you to be proud of your ignorance. We also established that you believe that knowledge and understanding are the way of the devil. So I’m afraid I’m not following your logic.
Would it help if I defined “logic” for you?
Oh dear me no. Please tell me what you really think Trolly. Don’t hold anything back to spare my feelings. I’ll feel slighted if you do.
^^^ I believe that I have already done all of that and if you are having trouble understanding what I share, I pray that you get the help that you need to get it all soon.
I already know what that means, but if you don’t, I’d be more than happy to tell you about it. All that you have to do is ask.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
Oh I see. We’re playing that children’s game where whatever I say you try to say back to me as an insult. So I guess that puts your maturity level at what, about a 4th grade level?
Yes, I’m beginning to notice a pattern here. :D:D
Well, she’s a piece of one, I guess.
This is likely the first time in my life I’ve ever used this term, but that’s a real gobsmack there. No, the point of therapy is not to change the past. It’s to help, actually help, someone who is in some kind of agony, despair, or other mental illness. And, no, intelligent people do not condemn other people for having a mental illness. It’s an illness, not Evil[sup]tm[/sup]. Therapy is designed to help the person cope. In that way, it’s a method to, one hopes, ensure a future for the person.
You can’t tell from that observer’s point of view because you are not, of course, a qualified observer.
I’m sure your family and friends are so proud of you now.
That would be L+1, where L = Latest tally of lies you have made.
Ah, now we know why you do what you do: you’re convinced that you’re not condemned by the words you utter. My guess is you’re either one of those OSAS or pre-destination types. By the way, have you ever noticed that those who think only a few people are Saved always, without fail, believe they, no matter how they act, are among that throng?
Don’t recall anyone saying you were. But you sure have involved yourself in judging the person, now haven’t you?
It’s not something they’re trying to “get away with” doing. It’s a symptom, an extreme symptom obviously, of a serious and actual medical condition.
You have absolutely no idea what the person was thinking about at a dire time in their life. You obviously understand exactly nothing about the issue.
Oh, yeah. We have seen how you think about their survivors. Tell me, if you can, how it’s supposed to help the survivors to inform them their loved one is burning in Hell?
You’ve let a lot of stuff slide, lass. All of the stuff you’re letting slide is coming from you though.
For the majority of my life, I’ve heard Fundamentalists of one stripe or another telling me that, as a Mormon, I worship a different deity than Fundamentalists do. When I hear or see stuff like the tripe you just posted, I actually find myself hoping that they’re correct. My deity is a loving one. Your’s, apparently, isn’t.
^^^ You are never going to break me no matter what you throw at me and no matter how much it is that you decide to throw at me, but if you want to keep trying, go ahead. After all, it is your time to waste.
What do you think is going to happen when you make the first move?
God bless you two always!!!
Holly
What makes you think I want to break you Trolly? Would you try to break your favorite doll or toy?
As for the first move, you’ll need to tell me what game we’re playing first. You can’t seem to make up your mind.