Reminder: Final hearing tomorrow at 1:00! Dealing with the connections between “extremist groups” and Trump’s people.
I’d be surprised if this recording doesn’t get mentioned at some point.
I had thought that there were going to be a few more, so I checked:
Committee Chair Bennie Thompson: Unless something else develops, this hearing at this point is the final hearing, but it’s not in stone because things happen.
Vice Chair Liz Cheney: We don’t anticipate that it will be the last hearing.
So, I guess, certainly coming to the end if not the end.
They’d better make it a doozy.
Prime time would be nice.
Maybe it’s the end of the beginning.
Posting this question here because its answer is a highjack from the main thread.
So clearly Trump is not actually going to provide any useful information to the committee, but getting him on the stand may open him up to political/legal jeopardy.
I fully expect him to ignore the subpeona, and then if forced, either lie or (if he’s smart) plead the fifth. In these cases its pretty clear what the penalties are. Ignore subpeona → contempt, lie-> purjury, 5th → no legal consequences but possible political consequences.
But what if instead Trump does show up but then simply treats it like most politicians approach uncomfortable questions, and just ignores them to blovate.
Cheney: President Trump, were you told that members of the crowd at your rally were planning violence?
Trump: The election was a sham Biden couldn’t have won D’Souza proved it in his movie.
Cheney: would you please answer the question.
Trump: all of the allegations against me are categorically untrue. You all know I’m innocent but are part of the deep state conspiracy against me…
Is that going to be enough for a contempt charge?
Most of the testimony to this committee has been behind closed doors. I think they would decide whether it’s worse to give Trump the opportunity to spout off unscripted, or to get closed-door testimony and let Trump go on camera and lie about what happened.
From Hearing thread:
Whoa! That’s pretty heavy. I was wondering how the got there. Found this link:
I’ll post this on the Adjacent Thread so as not to hijack discussion.
Not sure if this is appropriate in this thread - or somewhere else - but is anyone else feeling deflated and saddened as the result of today’s testimony? I only heard bits and pieces, and read the other thread, but nothing really surprised me. I don’t know what would change the minds of anyone (are there ANY undecideds?) And it is likely next month’s elections will put a halt to these efforts.
Or is the hope that the DoJ will take over and pursue action against someone?
It is so depressing that this HUGE thing happened, and 1/2 of Congress and a good share of the electorate are just happy to pretend it never happened.
The MAGA supporters seem to think so. I spotted this, posted about an hour ago, on a right/far-right message board:
That’s just a sampling of the sentiment over there. There’s also much mention made of how Trump will simply ignore a subopena, how this is a Salem witch trial with a predetermined outcome, and a comparison to the Spanish Inquisition. Which, of course, nobody expects. 
Well, we could hope he goes all Colonel Jessup if he goes on camera:
A very interesting read. I remember reading that somehow the older buildings of the Smithsonian connect in at some point.
So assuming Republicans take the house, and kill the committee - how does that work? Does House leadership kill it unilaterally, or does the house vote?
And if they interview him and don’t release it, he can just claim they’re suppressing it. Hashtag “ReleaseTheTrumpTapes”
An amusing mixture of commentary in certain corners of Twitter, boiling down to:
- “Why won’t the committee allow our side to testify?”; and
- “Why is the committee forcing Trump to testify?”.
To my awareness, Fox News is up and running. They have all of these people’s phone numbers.
Didn’t a majority of the testimony come from Republicans?
Like a super-duper majority.
Who should be dead from alcohol poisoning.
When the committee talks about the reasons the January 6th coup attempt failed, they always praise the “courage” of people like Mike Pence and Bill Barr and Jeff Rosen, men who made the “hard” decision not to risk imprisonment for supporting the deranged rantings of a mad man.
But there were people that I feel were primarily responsible for foiling this plot that never get any credit.
You. Me. Democrats. All the democratically aligned people and organizations that that laughed instead of getting mad, that kept the faith instead of joining the fight.
Some people think this coup plot wasn’t serious because they don’t understand how it could’ve worked. Certainly Trump didn’t think he could stay President just by getting a mob to execute Mike Pence, did he? Maybe he thought he could stay President by delaying the certification, but he wouldn’t have needed a mob and a quick reaction force for that, just Mike Pence. Plus, we have Trumps claim that he called for thousand of troops in DC. What WAS Trump’s plan, how did he see this playing out?
Here’s what I think was supposed to happen. Trump expected thousands of angry liberals to take the bait and come to DC on January 6th. He wanted massive mob violence, not just at the Capitol but throughout the city. He needed the certification to be disrupted, but he needed to have enough “Antifa” in the mix that he could lay the blame on liberals. And, more importantly, he needed widespread violence throughout DC, violence that would’ve enabled him to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and ultimately cancel the inauguration. It’s what he was expecting, it’s what his operatives were expecting, and it’s what the OathKeepers and Proud Boys, with their weapons stashed in nearby hotels, were expecting.
But we didn’t show up. No one organized any counter protests. We just stayed home and watched Trump destroy any legacy he might have and deal a devastating blow to the Republican Party. All because we stayed home. I don’t always agree with the “when they go low, we take the high road” strategy, but it worked on January 6th.