Was it Lord Snapcase or Lord Winder who had criminals torn apart by giant tortoises for the amusement and edification of the children?
That sounds like Snapcase. They didn’t call him “Mad” for nothing.
how on earth is this person still on the court??! he needs to resign. this is getting out of hand.
I don’t see that Clarence was complicit in this, but rather that they were hoping he’d be someone they could convince.
If, however, there was evidence of any kind of collusion, he should be impeached.
(I mean, I’d just be happy if he was gone no matter what, but I don’t see actual allegations of wrongdoing from Thomas in that reporting.)
Here’s a link to the e-mail, and a bunch of other emails that are still completely redacted.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23257574-chapman059954_redacted
For some reason all the i’s and l’s are missing from the original emails……there may be a joke in there but I can’t find it, but I’m wondering if it was some sort of tactic to defeat a search program.
And CNN has been seriously annoying me with their habit on reporting on court filings without linking to the document being reported on.
ETA….I screwed this up. Here’s the link to the Politico story, which contains several emails in addition to the one I linked to……
I’m not sure I see how Clarence Thomas fucking things up for George’s electoral votes would be key to keeping Biden out of the White House. Even if they succeeded in depriving him of those sixteen EVs, he’d still have 290, which is plenty.
I mean, I get that the America-hating fuckstick’s lawyers were also working on reversing outcomes in Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Was succeeding in Georgia supposed to start some sort of domino effect?
Not that my line of thinking means shit, but this is exactly what I thought they were attempting. Get the results overturned in one state, and there were plenty of GOP legislators and government officials in the states you mentioned that would try to do the same in their state.
yes, the thought was that if they tipped one state the others could fall.
remember ginny thomas was sending her own emails to the same people and mentioning “her best friend”. they seemed to think that thomas was on their side.
judges have resigned due to very vague “appearances” let alone what is going on here.
I’m with rocking chair. It’s not that there isn’t evidence, it’s just that it’s circumstantial. Impeachment is only the beginning of a trial. I would say that the charge of being married to a person who was acting completely bonkers and trying to get the election overturned, while the actual candidate’s team was putting a plan into place that relied on you using your position to subvert justice, is enough for a trial. I mean, he’s entitled to say he never talked to his wife, never heard anything about any of the millions of insane things she was actively engaged in all the time or any of the many meetings she had with other insane people who were trying to do the same things. But I don’t see why they’d need to presumptively say that since that is consistent with the known laws of physics, it was definitely what happened. Maybe they wouldn’t unearth a smoking gun and maybe they think they’d need one to justify the inquiry, but I don’t agree.
It’s of course not the only case like that, where impeachment would be appropriate but won’t be considered for tactical or strategic reasons. But I’d make the same argument in those other cases, too.
You don’t want to be the first to tip, but you certainly don’t want to be the last.
My theory is that ( at least in part) a lot of this was geared towards riling up Democrats in the hope that they would show up in Washington DC en masse on January 6th and start violent riots, not just at the Capitol, but all around DC. This would’ve allowed them to declare martial law and suspend the Constitution……etc.
They genuinely believe their own hype about angry violent Democrats and it would explain why Trump requested ( as he claims) a heavy National Guard presence on 1/6.
I doubt very much the people who schemed this whole thing were going to leave any part of the process to angry Democrats or BLM-types. I suspect we will all learn they had their paws on the various levers of power just waiting to pull them when either conditions were right or TFG gave the signal. My suspicion is that they were waiting for something to happen that never did, so there was no pulling of the Clarence Thomas lever, no pulling of the National Guard lever, no declaring Martial Law lever. TFG was probably waiting for someone else to make the big call so he would have deniability, coward that he is.
Maybe TFG was not pleased with the size of the crowd on 1/6 (ya know how he is with size, crowds, and all that) and scaled back the plan from pulling all the levers in government to cheat a win when he saw Pence was not coming to his aid (perhaps that was the one trigger the whole plan depended on?), and just decided to use the mob to attack the very people cementing his loss.
To what end? I doubt one R senator would vote to convict, let alone 17.
For the same reason we impeached Trump twice. Because it’s the right and necessary thing to do, even if doesn’t remove him from his position. It makes an important statement.
^ This. So he can be referred to as “Impeached Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas”.
That does have a nice ring to it.
Yeah, I get all that, but I try to look at everything from the point of view of the disinterested citizen who may not even vote if they think both parties are equally bad. And to that person, impeaching Thomas could just look like one party engaging in pointless spectacle instead of “getting things done.”
I’d be delighted if Thomas dropped dead tomorrow – and fully supported both of Trump’s impeachments – but I’d be pretty skeptical about going down this path without a red-hot smoking gun.
As I said before, there’s no basis to impeach him. People in this thread seem to want to impeach him solely because of who he’s married to. It’s ridiculous.
If there’s evidence of collusion with the 1/6 conspirators then that’s a whole other story.
But I guess it depends on what you call a “red hot smoking gun”.
A recorded phone call of Thomas with Meadows or Eastman saying something like, “If everything you’re planning works, I’ll make sure our majority backs you. Screw the voters.”
You do realize that even if you had video tape showing Clarence and Jenny Thomas together in the Oval Office telling Trump that because of his great leadership in stacking the court, he and Jenny could both guarantee that if a case on Georgia’s election were to appear on his docket, the Georgia election would be as good as overturned (thanks for the ‘gift’), along with DNA evidence, and it would not matter one bit.
A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. – Paul Simon
ETA: Correct quote.