Aha said:
You are?!
Eeeeeew.
And to think I almost welcomed you…
Aha said:
You are?!
Eeeeeew.
And to think I almost welcomed you…
I have read most but not all of the replies to Satan’s OP. And I must say for some people to attack him based on an observation he made and felt he wanted to post on it to be kind of lame.
He didn’t flame, I think the main reason he pointed this out was to mention the fact that jenkinsfan seems to have a very narrow focus when it comes to posting. I feel, this is my opinion, that if a poster only has one agenda in a place like the SD what’s the purpose?
For Satan or anyone else to make this observance isn’t wrong, it’s been done before. I think the reason some people get all pissy about it is because it’s religious in nature. You point this out with other posters and no one gets their panties in a wad over it, must be the religious thing.
Satan has questioned his spiritual status for a while now and I don’t think that anyone should question his motives in this manner.
He made a very detailed observation…but it’s still an observation.
A few words, I don’t really have an opinion of jenkinsfan. I remember reading some of his posts and thinking this is like ARG220 in the old days. If you don’t know, don’t ask. It was bad; however, unlike ARG, jenkinsfan seemed to have at least more semblance of good ideas where ARG was 95% oure judgement. Overall, I thought it was just laughable. His points are interesting eventhough I rarely if ever agree with them and my apathy towards that type of attitude keeps me from even wanting to respond. I don’t think he is a troll right now, nor will I. He seems intelligent overall but is much easier to ignore than the typical troll.
HUGS!
Sqrl
i don’t kow if this link has been posted in this thread yet, but have a look.
Wow, that kind of makes it clear what his mission is. I mean, not that I really doubted it, but it definitely puts him firmly in the “troll” category. In this case, trolling for minds to infect with a particular memeplex…
I’ve been thinking about this lately, and I’ve come up with a possibly useful analogy.
Let’s say that you sell oranges.
You happen upon this board, and you think, “Hey, these people need oranges!” You start up several new threads about these great oranges you have for sale. Every post you make has some reference to oranges, whether they are relevant or not. You start up threads where you say, “I’m not trying to sell oranges in this thread, but hey–aren’t oranges great?”
This would not be received very well. It’s not that we have anything against oranges–we like oranges. We just don’t appreciate someone trying to sell them to us on this board.
On the other hand, let’s say you sell oranges. You find this board, and you like the people and the discussions so you hang around and join in. Everyone knows that you’re an orange salesman, and that if they need oranges, you’re the man, but you don’t purposely and repeatedly advertise it. Maybe at some point you say, “Hey, I’ve got a great deal on oranges this week, if anyone is interested,” but you don’t see the board as a market for your oranges.
See the difference? Which way is going to piss off fewer people? Which way is going to sell more oranges?
Dr. J
…if you think there’s nothing wrong with his reflection?
I agree with Shayna: this mirror business is an implied criticism.
My reaction: so JF is a one-trick pony. So what? Lib was (and is) a one-trick pony, and there was really nothing wrong with that. The problem you seem to have, Satan, is that JF’s one trick involves Christian fundamentalism, rather than free-market fundamentalism. BFD.
You and DoctorJ have compared JF with Lib. Since I was one of the people most ticked off by Lib, let me draw some distinctions here between Lib and JF. (And it’s probably worth taking my comments about Lib with the appropriate grain of salt; I’m definitely biased.)
The problem I had with Lib wasn’t his one-note approach to life (although I’m not keen on one-noters of any persuasion, and especially his); it was the fact that he was all over the place, seemingly turning every economic, political, or religious thread into a debate over libertarianism.
Recall that, between last November and this March, roughly, Lib was easily our most prolific poster. He averaged over 18 posts a day, getting to 2000 posts probably faster than anyone before him. If you were on GD, posting to threads in the aforementioned categories, he was unavoidable. And he had a gift for writing inflammatory posts that would immediately become the focus of the debate, turning the thread into yet one more libertarian debate. The notion that, say, a debate over whether America should have a flat tax or not, implied a debate on that issue within a certain pre-existing context never seemed to occur to him; he cheerfully turned any such discussion into a debate over whether government, in the broad sense, ought to exist.
Pardon me if I don’t see this same problem arising in the case of jenkinsfan, who, since registering, has posted roughly 2-3 times a day. Unless I’m missing something here, you can get away from this guy if you want, and still participate widely in your favorite forums. With Lib (during his heyday, anyway), you couldn’t, at least not in GD.
And most particularly, Satan, he’s clearly not been your problem. As you say, you’ve had little time to post on anything besides recent and upcoming Doper get-togethers. JF has hardly been a thorn in your side, then. So what’s the deal? Why are you making an issue out of this guy? In what sense is he a problem for anyone else, in a way that can’t be best dealt with by ignoring him? And if he isn’t, why are you making a poster the issue here? (btw, JF, I’m not implying that you’re a problem; I’m just making a worst-case argument.)
I just don’t get it.
RTF–did you check the above link to LB? This is why some of us have an issue with Jenkinsfan. Prolific or not, the agenda is still there. Hell, I wouldn’t mind the agenda, if he would use the better half of DoctorJ’s analogy in doing so. But he doesn’t, and hence my main problem with him.
Drain, I checked out the thread where he asks everyone’s prayers for his witnessing mission. (Gawd, it was depressing to revisit that place!) Still, agenda or no, I don’t see him being worse than an annoyance. While I’m not much of a GDer these days, I’ve only mildly noticed him when I’ve had time to spend there lately. It’s not like he brought over a few dozen buddies to try to clog up the place.
All I did was show him a mirror.