Oh, I see that apparently you really do want to talk about Rev. Wright. I had the impression you wanted to spend your time in this thread complaining about Obama, for some reason.
OK. I guess we’re both really glad that Rev. Wright doesn’t have any particular position in the administration, then. Glad we could clear that up.
I’m guessing this means you find Wright’s comments somewhat offensive, yes? Barack Obama listened to this guy on a weekly basis for 20 years and had to be convinced to cut all ties with his hateful sermons.
Most of us only have to hear two words (“them Jews”) to understand that Wright is a foaming racist. Obama, dim bulb that he is, couldn’t make that connection over two decades! Gee, I wonder why…?
Ah, so now you actually do want to spend your time complaining about Obama. Jeez, man, make up your mind.
Wright didn’t say anything offensive that I ever heard. The only thing he was wrong about was the government causing AIDS, but that’s just paranoid, not offensive, and not that far fetched considering Tuskeegee.
Obama cut ties with him for political expedience. It’s not politically relevant that Wright said nothing objectionable. The demonization of Wright was blatantly racist and phony, but the right succeeded in making it a media distraction for a few days, so Obama had to cut ties with him.
Obama was only going to that church for political reasons anyway. It’s not like he actually cared what Wright said.
He didn’t care when he got married there? He didn’t care when Wright baptized his children? WTF?
Oh, I’m sure it was just a passing fancy…kindly ignore those pesky wedding and baptism ceremonies
I didn’t know I was a them.
Good grief, Dio, change them Jews to them blacks and I dare you to tell it wasn’t offensive.
I didn’t care who married me or baptized my children. I don’t even know their names. I couldn’t have cared less.
What evidence do you have that Obama didn’t care about those things? Most people do.
says much…
I always wonder about the religious convictions of someone like Obama. In the U.S., it’s virtually impossible to be elected to any national office (and to a lot of local offices) unless you make a show of being a “person of faith.” But Obama is clearly too intelligent to believe in the fairy tales for adults that churches dole out. So, are his past church attendance and periodic expressions of faith simply a nod to political necessity, or does his intellect actually have a “stupid corner?”
Well, he was talking about specific Jews, and he’s an old black guy. It wasn’t the most graceful thing he could have said, but it’s not proof positive that he’s a raging antisemite. He has no history of making antisemitic or racist remarks. I think it’s akin to when my 90 year old grandmother talks about “those Vietnamese” at the supermarket.
What does it say?
I like the fact that you’ve come up with only two possible explanations - he’s pretending, or he just has a corner of the mind where he’s thick. No possibility at all that a person might be religious and intelligent, of course - what a nonsensical idea.
What evidence do you have that he did care?
These attempts to paint Obama as a racist by proxy didn’t work in the elction, so I see no point in trying to resurrecct them again now. Obama is just as white as he is black, by the way. Did you know that?
Well yes, I’ve always found that to be nonsensical. When an otherwise intelligent person expresses belief in total nonsense, I have to start looking for explanations.
Religion is simply watered-down, pre-digested ‘philosophy’ for those too timid to ponder the universe on their own. I think this about all religious belief systems.
Yet your explanations assume your ideas are correct. An apparently intelligent person is religious - this cannot be so - ergo, they’re faking it or they’re actually stupid somehow. The idea that perhaps you’re wrong to suggest intelligence and religiousness can’t coexist didn’t seem to cross your mind, which is worrying, considering if you don’t take it into account, then you’ll never be able to prove that wrong if it is wrong. You have to look for all the explanations if you really want to do the best job of studying something.
Thank you for watering down your own pre-digested “philosophy” for us. I think technically your post is also a call to ignore your post, which is interesting, at least.
For the record, plenty of intelligent people are religious. Hell, they might even be right about Heaven and the afterlife and what-have-you. How would I (or anyone else) really know for sure? It’s fine with me if someone would rather just buy into a pre-existing religion and be done with it. Heck, I even envy them to a degree.