While we’re here, can I just ask; Lolo, what is your sig all about and why do you feel the need to include it in every post you make?
my sig is a line in the movie “Quick Change” with bill murray.
It’s a line of revelation.
The police cheif is trying to ascertain where exactly the bank robbers are and the cab driver, an arab fellow, keeps saying “blufftoney” and waving his hand…
after a while the police cheif finally gets it and exclaims , “Oh, they’re IN the blufftoney!”
I feel, after I make a stunning revelation, it is appropriate. 
Thanks Lolo now I can rest.
- You’ll let me know when that happens, right?
if you don’t know you better aks somebody
I hope that he is refering to this.
Lolo wrote:
I like the cute little song that plays when I go to that webpage. But Lolo? I’ve got some bad news for you. Those annoying billboards are not, in fact, fucking. That’s not even what fucking looks like. I know you’re a little young yet to know about the Birds and the Bees, but maybe when you’re a little older, you can start to learn. Type random domain names into your web browser’s “Address” field. About half the random combinations you type will take you to pornographic websites, whence you can begin the delightfully educational trip of learning what fucking really looks like.
Oh – and I do kinda like the audacity of that billboard that says:
“Big Bang? You’ve got to be kidding. --God”
It reminds me of the billboard I sometimes saw while driving north on highway 101 out of Salinas, which said:
“I need to be in school. --God”
Nothin’ like a little biblical literalism/theocracy to brighten the mornin’.
Have you any idea about statistics. Nothing about it is inherently Christian, gender or race specific right? If you take all of the prophesies in the Old Testament about the MEssiah who Jesus claimed he was and compare them to what we historically not biblically know is true of this man named Jesus, have you any idea the improbability of one man fiting all those criteria? There were prophesies about lineage, birthplace, occupation, gender, race, and others that Jesus fit not because he read the OT and decided he would meet the requirements but because he was who he said he was. After all you can’t change who your family is or your gender or your race can you just because you want to be the Messiah. Statistically speaking it is less than one in seven million chance for one person to fulfill all the prophesies laid out. This stands true whether you believe the bible is true or not. Lets say that it is fiction and along comes someone we know to be nonfiction due to historical fact not biblical fact and meets all of the prophesies. That alone impresses me. Can you name one other person who has done that?
Well, if your “one in seven million” stat is accurate, then based on the current world population, one year ago there were approximately eight hundred fifty-seven messiahs out there. :eek: Nine years from now there will (guestimating) be nine hundred and seventy eight. Better prepare to be very, very impressed.
“Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
stephaniechandler632 wrote:
One “other” person who has done that?
Your question implies that someone has already done that. But if we’re saying that the Bible is fiction, then no one has come along whose existence is historical fact and who satisfies all of the prophecies. (Historical evidence for the existence of Jesus is not historical evidence that Jesus satisfied any of the prophecies.)
That bit about the statistical Messiah was brilliantly absurd, well done.
A couple of interpolations in Josephus’ writings? 
Hey, I just realised, that’s better than the odds of winning the lottery.
Maybe, just maybe…
Maybe Jesus won the lottery?
ducking & running
[sub]I’m sorry to just be silly, but this thread was going nowhere fast anyway :)[/sub]
You just read Lee Strobel’s book, didn’t you?
I suppose the obvious flip-side to your argument would be, if any of those prophecies were not fulfilled Jesus would not be the messiah.
hmm?
Jesus was illiterate!
tracer,
Your post was almost funny. I almost laughed.
I’m sure you’d be whistling a different tune if you drove to work and had to see billboards mocking your religion.
Oh well.
Whoosh!
Of course, the arguement can be (and has been quite effectively IMHO) that those supposed “prophecies” were not about the Messiah and also that the prophecies that were about the Messiah Jesus filled none of them. If you want to actually see their arguement, I can provide links for you.
And the author you were refering to is Josh McDowell. I was particulary impressed with his arguements.
By the way, welcome to the SDMB. Stick around, I’m sure you will learn a hell of a lot.
You are positively precious! What “religion” do you suppose Tracer (along with 90% of your other detractors) espouses?
So who’s bugging you so far? A couple of Bible-thumpers at your old college and a … a billboard? That’s all you’re faced with? And that’s just too much Christianity to bear? That just pushes all your buttons?
Lolo - the fact is that the world is full of people that don’t think like you do, on a wide variety of issues. ANd nobody’s changing their mind on your say-so. So it’s your job to deal with it appropriately IRL. Still, I guess you can assume any personna you want to on a message board like this – it costs you nothing personally.
Hope you handle things better IRL.
BTW - yes, those billboards appear as overhead placards in the main shopping mall where I live. And those billboards were also along Airline Highway in New Orleans, where I lived until last November. In N.O., ours said “Don’t make me come down there - God.”
As if God was “up there” – please! In the same vein, I think you’re off-base with your “sky deity” jab – who thinks God is a “sky deity”? I don’t know any Christians that do, although pointing upwards towards heaven or whatever may be convenient gestural shorthand.
Anyway, like you, Lolo, I think those billboards are BS, too. I think it’s incorrect to attribute to God human attributes such as a scolding demeanor and a vengeful personality – not to mention that those writing the ads are presuming to speak for their God, which is prima facie BS, in my opinion.
So I blow them off. The billboards are good for a chuckle, but then life goes on. Why you choose to dwell on (and it is YOU choosing to dwell), I don’t know. You will change not one mind with your tirades.