Lolo: Let Me Guess...athiest?

The BBQ Pit
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Ah Lolo, fresh off the Pledge of Allegiance Tour, here to show us all the way and to reveal to us that (gasp!) he has no faith in religion.

Lolo is a rebel, unimpressed by Jesus Christ, yet tremendously impressed by The Marquis de Sade

Woah! That’s controversial, gothic, and worthy of my black eyeshadow. Lolo has abandoned morality, and religion. and makes broad sweeping cryptic statements like “I need not bash religion…it collapses upon itself.”

OOOoooooooOOOOOOEEEEEEEEeeeeOOOOOOOO

[cue Dr. Who theme]
I’m not saying that we can’t have all kinds here. In fact, it takes all kinds baby. Hey, face it, I’m just a gal, in the cult of Jesus Christ, loving the sinner but hating his posts.

But if you’re going to argue thatJesus was the leader of a Doomsday cult, here’s a good idea…HAVE A VALID FUCKING POINT. You quote one chapter of Acts and ONE verse in Matthew and that’s your evidence. If you want to rant about how Jesus ain’t alright with you, then come on over to the pit and be embraced by hundreds who agree with you, but if you want a Great Debate, prepare to meet some dissenters. And prepare for them to tear you to bits. (by the by, I don’t claim to be one of them.)

Then to top it off you get pissed at us for saying your arguement is weak by calling us all cult members. Good way to keep a reasonable discussion going, Lolo. No, I mean it. Alright, actually I don’t.

Now kids, far be it from me to say Lolo has an agenda for his time at the SDMB…but at this point, 13 of the 21 threads he’s participated in have something to do with religion, and usually it’s a snipe at the validity of the bible. I don’t want to close the voting booth just yet, but really, I’m ready to take the One Trick Pony award from Esprix and hand it over to
LOLO: The Li’l Boy Who Hated Christ.

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Yah know, there are a few Christians that go around giving other Christians a bad name…

Then there is Lolo, giving atheists a bad name. Its not like atheists don’t have any PR issues without his help. However, with atheists around like Lolo, its amazining more atheists aren’t converting - to agnosticism of course.

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Good point. Who, after all, do they have on their side? We’ve got a Higher Authority backing us up. In spirit, at any rate…

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oh cmon jarbaby, just because you’re on the rag doesn’t mean you have to take it all out on Lolo, our modern-day Galileo, persecuted for exposing the truth.

500 years later you’ll all be sorry.

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I tried to start a discussion, cult-member, but was attacked b/c I didn’t start my thread with a ten page dissertation on “why jesus was in an end of the world cult”

I had intended for others, as well as myself, to offer some info here and there and collectively discuss some possibilities.

I offered a few quotes, but since only Christians know the true meaning of Christ and anyone who sees the enormous pile of bullshit, oops I mean bible, for just that , an enormous pile of bullshit, is wrong I was lynched.

You Christians are all the same. Up is down, left is right, and I’m taking it out of context.

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You are in a cult. I pity you. Actually, I don’t.

Anyone stupid enough to think their religion is the right religion is too stupid to see their religion is just as invalid as any religion, hence, none of it is worthy of anything more than dismissal and mockery.

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how about, LOLO;The ANTI-Christ?

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Lolo,

Work on puberty, then we’ll discuss your demonic potential.

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I’m not impressed.

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I haven’t even posted on a thread of his and he’s getting on my nerves. He has not the slightest clue about how to frame an argument and when called on this by other posters he makes accusations that people are only criticizing him because he’s bashing Christianity or he just fires off an insult. He is ignorant of the fact that his idea of debating is poorly founded inferences, leading questions and insults. The only reason I’ve read any thread he started is because there are usually some flippant responses to him that I find funny. As an agnostic I think he’s clueless. Why hasn’t he been banned already?

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In order to be like Galileo, it is not sufficient to be persecuted for one’s beliefs; it is also necessary to be right.

Lolo, as a fellow atheist, I’d like to say that you are a detriment to our cause. If you believe reason is important, then be reasonable.

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No, you were arguing badly and got slapped down for it, and rightfully so. I’m a stone atheist, but I also know how to frame an argument and to provide more proof than using Bible verses ripped out of context. The story of Ananias has nothing to do with “end of the world cults.”

Yes, Jesus talked about God’s judgement at the end of the world, but apocalyptic literature and prophecies of judgement were common in 1st-century Palestine.

Umm, that can be applied to your POV, as well, Lolo.

Oh, puh-leeze, child, don’t give yourself airs. Run along, liitle Goth boy, and leave the denunciation of religion to your elders (not to mention youir betters).

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Lolo,

Without referring to a dictionary, can you tell us what eschatology is? What apocalypse is? What the difference is between the two?

Can you tell me why some experts believe that Jesus was preaching an apocalyptic eschatolotical message, why others believe he was not, and why some believe he had no eschatolotical message at all?

Some scholars (some of whom are non-religious) believe Jesus was simply trying to cause social reform. After all, he was a poor man, surrounding himself with other (largely) poor folk from the sticks, who got himself lynched when he entered the city.

One thing you might want to consider in all your rantings and ravings is the scholarly background of others who have studied Christianity, Jesus’ message and the surroundings he lived in.

But then, I don’t expect you’ve ever read more than one book.

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Sweet mother of nothing, Lolo, that was lame.

“You’re all deluded! I’m not playing because you smell of wee!”

I’m an atheist and happy with it, but that in no way means that I consider people who are willing to enter into rational argument and respectful dialogue with me about the subject to be worthy of dismissal and mockery. Your empty posturing (“Anti-christ”? You think no one’s ever said that before? You’re not clever or unique. It makes you sound childish.) and “You ALL suck!” sentiments do nothing for your argument, such as it is. Come up with a decent argument and we’ll take you seriously. Otherwise, you come accross as nothing but a foot-stamping narrow-minded fool who’s desperately trying to carve an identity for himself.

It’s all been done before, and more stylishly than you have.

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No, I tried to start a discussion and found myself having to answer five people at once. The Ananias story has everything to do with a group of people coming together after they sold their property(like cults often do, they assume equality). One couple who doesn’t give all the supposed proceeds to Peter is struck down by God.

The story is very relevant.

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and?

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How? I’m not religious.

and no, I don’t *believe * their isn’t a God, so can that argument.

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I’m not Goth.

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A Christian trying to make himself/herself feel better?

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Wow, grandiose and childish at the same time! With non-traditional punctuation, to boot!

Hold on, let me grab my Manic Panic and queue up some Cure. See you at the poetry reading.

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Poor child. That was an insult? [Krabapple]Ha![/Krabapple]

Go back to the kiddie pool, willya? You’re not quite ready to play with the adults.

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Lolo. I’m an atheist, and your “arguments” frankly suck ass. People aren’t saying your debating skills are lousy because they’re brainwashed Christians; they’re saying your debating skills are lousy becuase they are. There’s more to a good argument than “you Christians are stupid and you all suck, nyah nyah nyah.” Anyone who wants to argue anything with you first has to try to construct your argumnent for you before they can even tell what you’re ranting on about. How old are you again?

You are free to believe that. But “dismissal and mockery” without well-reasoned supporting evidence DOES NOT BELONG IN GREAT DEBATES. I might tolerate an occasional comment, but you yap about it constantly.

Learn how to debate, listen with an open mind to what those “stupid theists” have to say, stop contantly slurring large groups of people due to your ignorant, ridiculously simplisitc knowledge of their beliefs, or [Moderator Hat ON] you’re bucking for a banning, bub. [Moderator Hat OFF] Read up on Wildest Bill, a former poster here, and see how he got banned for the same sort of inflammatory, ignorant, heedless jerkishness. If you’re posting just to stir shit up, we don’t need you here. [sarcasm]I assure you, the cause of atheism will not be greviously harmed by your departure[/sarcasm]

[Edited by Gaudere on 11-08-2001 at 04:12 PM]

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Tsk. Lolo, at it again? You have all the social skills of dear departed Wildest Bill coupled with misapplied logic that rivals that of my good friend Hiyruu. In short, you are an abomination. All you need do is create a sock-puppet and perhaps up the ad hominem level to complete your unholy quest to be the Ultimate SDMB Tosser™. I’d like to add my name to the long list of non-theists that wish you would go away. My only request is that you have a complete meltdown before you get yourself banned; its been a long week, and I could use the entertainment.

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Yes. That’s how Great Debates works. Deal with it or fuck off.

–John

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Y’know, I’ve never seen a more unintentionally funny/sad sig than Lolo’s. In case it changes, he/she is currently using

Which, of course, is from the Major-General’s song from Gilbert and Sullivan’s masterpiece “The Pirates of Penzance”.

Lala no doubt believes that by associatining itself with the Major General, who knows all things “vegetable, animal and mineral.”

However.

It’s clear from the song that the Major-General is a buffoon. Per Isaac Asimov (in the wonderful Asimov’s Annotated Gilbert and Sullivan ), Asimov says:

Therefore, I gotta say, for dead-on accuracy, Lolo’s sig fits Lolo perfectly, with one single (but very important) difference:

Major-General Stanley was likeable.

Fenris