The 3 wise men are Orion’s belt. Star in the East is Sirius. All of them point to the sunrise. Sunrise birth, sunset on the crux, winter solstice, death. Resurrection birth, spring, plants grow, saving the hood. Walk on water, ocean reflecting sunrise and sunset. I’ve only read things, sell me on Jesus, please, no disrespect to any religion. Just looking for an answer.
What’s the question?
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There’s no scriptural basis for saying Jesus is the sun. Where did you encounter this idea?
It raises difficulties in reconciling it to other beliefs about Jesus. The sun was obviously there in the sky when Jesus was living on Earth. Did Jesus become the sun after his crucifixion? If Jesus and God are the same being, is the sun God? If God is everywhere, then isn’t he also present in the Earth and the Moon and all the other stars?
I think the OP may be suggesting that the notion of Jesus as the “Son of God” may in some way arise of a link between Jesus and the sun, or between Jesus and a sun god.
If that is the theory, the flaw in the theory is that “son” and “sun” are homophones in English, but not in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, etc. Jesus was considered the son of God centuries before there were English-speakers around to confuse “sun” and “son”.
I’ve heard Christians assert that Malachi 4:2 (“But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall”) is a prophetic statement referring specifically to Jesus.
Here’s an example: https://www.gotquestions.org/sun-of-righteousness.html
That’s the thing about the Bible. There’s something in it for anyone to interpret as meaning almost anything, if you’re in that frame of mind. Whether they’re “right” or “wrong” hardly comes into it.
Now, about those angels on the head of a pin…
Maybe he means Jesus Garcia, who installs solar panels.
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The English etymology of “sun” and “son” are completely unrelated, and the words are similar by accident of linguistic evolution. No more connected than “wait” and “weight”.
Try translating your “concept” into another language and see how much impact it loses:
Jesus é o nosso sol. O Filho de Nosso Deus.
Jezus jest naszym słońcem. Nasz Boski Syn.
Jēzus ir mūsu saule. Mūsu Dieva Dēls.
Please don’t make matters worse by insisting, then, that English is the divine language that God’ chosen people were intended to speak. And languages divinely all evolved into the one that can use Son and Sun to unravel this great mystery and prove God etc.
I’ve never seen Jesus and the Sun in the same room at the same time…though thinking about it, I’ve never seen Jesus and Hilter together either.
Is the sun Hitler? Then why does he burn white people? I’m so confused!
If the question is were the details of the story originally meant as an astronomical myth such as the story of Samson might be, I doubt it. Whoever invented the backstory for Jesus was trying to make him sound more supernatural/prophetic.
Jesus gives us His name to use with the Father, His power to use, His authority to use, His work to do, and His inheritance to have. Basically Jesus lets us know who we are and have always have been, children of God. Or in short We are Jesus.
We have forgotten who we are and where we are from, that our source is God, as shown by Adam and Eve. The condition of this world is to live in a illusion of this world, and we are taught by our parents and others that we are simply humans and have to make it on our own and eventually die. Jesus comes to dispel this lie, the lie that prevents us from using our god abilities and accept a lesser type of life.
Jesus comes many times, and for better and worse usually ends up creating religions around His and Her truth that He has come to set us free of. The Jesus that the OP comes to state is one such child of God, Son of God, who came into this world with the knowledge of who he is switched on, sometimes such a being is considered a starchild, a being that has come into flesh untouched by the condition of Adam, in other faiths such a being may be considered enlightened, and come into flesh the purpose of relieving the suffering of humanity.
Jesus is one with the Father, and so are we. Though we are in different flesh, we are part of one, and thus God has one child with one spirit (Holy Spirit), which is love. This goes on to explain the trinity which we are all part of the same spirit.
As for the signs and wonders of Jesus life, yes there will be many for those who seek God. Those people will see the signs and wonders that point them to the direction of truth, but to others it will not be noticed, or of brought to their attention, will be dismissed as foolishness as the illusions of this world will hide it from their eyes. The scripture ‘seek and you shall find’ is part of our god right and a condition of our existence. When we get to the point that things in life, ways of this world, can not answer our questions we seek answers for ourselves, many often look to religions and some may get stuck there, others will evolve to see the greater truth and how God uses even religions to help those who are seeking to go beyond religion. These enlightened beings can also call people out of the illusion of the world.
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To answer your question secularly, there is no reason to think that Jesus or Yahweh have anything to do with the sun. Again, looking at things completely secularly, we don’t really have any idea where Yahweh came from. Some posit a possible connection with El, the chief Canaanite diety, but really, this connection seems to mostly be because the generic Hebrew word for God is El and that’s a reach since the English word “deity” comes from the Latin Deus (which is still a name for God) which comes from the name of an ancient Indo-European God, so etymology can take you down crazy rabbit holes. Regardless though, El was not a sun god. We don’t really know what kind of god he was, but possibly a desert deity.
The only tenuous connection that you might be digging up is the cult of Sol Invictus which modern atheists like to point at and go ‘Aha, Christ is just a Roman cult gone overboard!’ while basking in their self-superiority. Unfortunately, there’s zero evidence that Sol Invictus even existed prior to Christ and his cult may have actually been a response to growing Christian power rather than Christianity copying off of Sol Invictus. Realistically, Christianity was a Jewish movement at first and there is no evidence that Jews in the First Century placed any special significance on the sun or identified it with Yahweh.
If you’re looking at it from a non-secular point of view, the connection is essentially non-existent. Yahweh and thus Christ is seen as eternally existent and the sun was an act of special creation. Within religious tradition, Yahweh/Christ is omnipresent and thus not confined to a particular place including the sun. He/They is also transcendent which means He/They lack any physical form other than the one taken on during the Incarnation or in specific circumstances (such as the dove or the burning bush (and one could argue that those are not true forms, but merely projections.)
I think the OP has been watching too much Star Trek.
You misunderstand. That was the answer.
It is said that those who ever discover the actual question instantly go insane.
Link to the gibberish generator where you got this, please?
To the extent that the OP is seeking to be sold on Jesus, I suspect that’s going to be hard to do (impossible?) without witnessing. As such, thread relocated from IMHO to Great Debates.
Speaking of crazy rabbit holes, one of the names for God is “El Shaddai” as commonly transliterated into English. It is often translated as “God Almighty”. The “el” part is a Semitic root for “god”, but the “shaddai” part is less clear. One of the possible origins is the Semitic root “shad”, which can refer to either a mountain or a female breast. (Compare to “Grand Teton”.) So “El Shaddai” might have connotations of “God of the Mountain” or “God of the Breasts”. Ancient Hebrew is known for punnish wordplay; for example “Adam” is similar to the Hebrew word for “earth”, referring to God making Adam from clay.