Grace finally prepares for her bat mitzvah.
Isn’t she about three years too late?
See you here at 9pm! (Except for Biblio, who has to watch *Third Watch * first :D)
Smartass. 
It’s not on tonight. 
Some special Dateline about Tom Brokaw instead.
I’ll be here. Tonight’s JoA looks good.
Okay, it’s 9:00 and here I am. Where are you, Ivylass?
This one was pretty good.
Did we ever get an exact reason why Grace kept putting off her Bat Mitvah from before? Don’t they usually do it around age 13 or so?
It seemed like they cut a scene out between where Grace came to the Girardi’s and the scene at her house where she was getting ready. It all seemed a little too settled too fast.
Are we seeing a set-up for Kevin and what’s-her-name (Beth?) getting back together?
Did Freidman buy the Hamlet book? Or just look at it a little?
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I think we’re supposed to assume that it was because of her mom’s drinking, though she covered it with the society/patriarchy rants 'cause those are safer.
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It did seem to be settled quickly… I would have liked to have seen her blow up at Joan, or at least slap her. I think all the wind went out of her sails when Luke told her he got her a present.
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Yup.
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Just looked at it longingly.
Good episode… liked SensitiveMafiaGod. 
I teared up only once… when Grace’s father said “Take care of my little girl…”
Good episode…I am a bit spoiled by the last couple, I didn’t even get a lump in my throat from this one!
Only part I didn’t and don’t like is the whole Helen/Lucy business. Doesn’t make any sense at all and I don’t see Lucy’s actions as any different than what most cops do every day nor do I see them as immoral or unethical. The kid wasn’t an innocent bystander, he was in that alley to buy drugs.
Spectacular episode.
Grace definitely loves and respects her dad. Loved the hug before the ceremony, and the “take care of my little girl”. Both wonderful. I liked the fact that Joan found out about Grace’s mother on her own. Grace may love her mother (she told her so), but does not respect her. The whole bat mitzvah experience seemed to be a positive for her. Afterwards, when Luke and Grace were watching the metor shower, she looked happy.
Joan finally seems to have quit avoiding thinking about Judith’s death… Adam worked through it in his own medium – will she take his advice and write about it?
I got a kick out of Glynnis’s snarky remark to Luke, when Grace went storming out “You wanted a more complex relationship.” (Glynnis looked good, not geeky tonight).
Cristy Carlson Romano does a very nice GodWave.
I was touched by Friedman and the Hamlet.
Even the police plot wasn’t bad this week… but didn’t Will fire Doctor Dave in the third episode for doing more or less what Lucyfer did this week?
As a whole I liked this episode. I think my favorite parts have to do with Grace’s dad. I always wondered what he’d be like and seeing him as a good and decent man really improved my opinion of the show. I thought it was the tougher route of the two but what he said to Grace before the ceremony really fit with this particular episode. It was probably my favorite moment.
I can generally take or leave the whole police subplot, I don’t hate them but I don’t watch the show because of them either. This one sort of intrigues me though because it will actually impact his homelife if his (and her) decision in this episode makes the case go south. I don’t, however, like the Lucy/Helen business. I think it’s a route the show doesn’t need to go. I may end up being suprised where they do go with it though.
On a different note, I’m in love with Robin Scorpio.
Me: “Huh, I wonder how she came into this role…” I’m tempted to find out how long she’ll be on JoA, but I’m not sure I want to spoil it for myself.
Grace = pretty. Who knew? I missed the “next week on”; who wants to fill me in?
Is Christy Carlson Romano somebody I should recognize? Because she was mentioned by name as being a guest star in a promo for the episode.
JoA continues to deliver the goods, imho, and so glad that Becky W. really has a chance to shine in this episode, which showed us more of Grace. I am so loving the Grace/Luke pairing too, though I’m almost afraid to say it! Loved that Luke’s present to Grace was the Leonids meteor showers.
Adam so wanted to help Joan to grieve for Judith although Joan had to come to terms with it herself. Kind of figured that Joan probably blamed herself, although doesn’t practically everyone at least have that thought cross their minds, especially in sudden/accidental deaths/murders? Glad that she was able to share with Adam in the end. Think she also may, at some point in the future, discuss G-D with him, or at the very least share that answers are just not something that the talks with the Supreme Being provides.
About Lucy … if I hadn’t already been convinced that she was working for the Dark Side, I’d definitely be there now. Is she really an agent of Evil, though? Or is perhaps evil just working -through- her? She’s wedging herself between Will and Helen, and in last night’s episode she did some under-handed stuff to keep that witness in jail in order to turn him. And Will should have -known- that wasn’t right.
This particular storyline is churning my stomach, unfortunately.
Two weeks till the next new show!
See, that’s just the thing…it WAS right. In fact, they let the kid off very light considering the circumstances. Some states have laws that say if you are comitting a crime and someone is killed, even if you didn’t kill them, you’re liable to be charged with murder. He was comitting a crime—buying drugs—and Judith was killed. In REAL life, he would have been in jail from minute one.
Yes, but that’s not why he was brought in. He was brought in on the ridiculous and completely fabricated assertion that he resembled someone who had robbed a convenience store. If they’d wanted to bring him in for buying drugs, then they should have done that. I agree with those who say that she’s the devil (metaphorically). She always wears just a smidgeon of color.
I liked this epidsode, by the way. As we were watching it, and Joan kept questioning God, I turned to my wife and said, “She’s asking all the wrong questions.” Later, it was cool to see God tell Joan basically the same thing. I’ve always felt like this show was very close to my own theology. Another part I liked was when God explained that there were different religions because people are different, and need different ways to relate to Her.
Watching the Tom Brokaw retrospective!
I hope we see more of Grace’s mom. I’m glad Joan got in Grace’s face of how she doesn’t stand up for anything for real. Grace tries to come across as a hardass, but she is hurting inside over her mom.
I don’t like the Will/Lucyfer storyline. Will seems just a little too defensive over his boss, and although Helen is a bit harsh on her, I don’t like to see her pushing Will away.
I’m thinking things will come to a head between Grace and her mom, although her mom seemed to be trying, as her gift for her daughter’s bat mitvah was drinking ginger ale.
I liked that, too.
Ohh ohh, I recently had to answer a reference question on her, so I know this one. She:
Is on a show on the Disney Channel.
Has a record out.
Is the voice of Kim Possable
My guess is that she is Disney's latest attept at producing another Annette Funicello.I was never on board with the whole Lucy(fer) idea until this episode; now it seems that her role is to tempt Will with choices (such as this one and the hiring of the take-no-prisoners attorney) that he would not have considered on his own. Helen’s resentment of Lucy seems to stem from Will’s willingness to confide and trust in his boss more than his wife.
The way she unreasonably condemned him out of hand for allowing his boss to use a perfectly justifiable and normal law enforcement tool is just going to drive him further away from her, too. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Are you saying that cops normally arrest people under completely false pretenses, such as claiming that they fit the description of a suspect when a facial close-up shows conclusively that the person they’re detaining cannot possibly be the suspect? And on top of that, you believe it is justified? That’s just… bizarre to me. Suppose I were a bad cop with an agenda, and I just didn’t like your looks. It’s okay if I haul you into jail saying that you look like some random guy on a wanted poster?
But it ISN’T some random guy they don’t like. That’s the point. It isn’t some innocent kid that’s just scared to come forward, either. It’s a guy who went into an alley to buy drugs, saw his friend get murdered and wouldn’t give a description because he was afraid he would implicate himself. IMHO that justifies putting a little pressure on him. After all, they didn’t and wouldn’t have pressed charges—actually, as Lucy knew, they COULDN’T have. Cops arrest people all the time then let them go without pressing charges, for a variety of reasons.
Hell, she didn’t even keep him overnight, which she could have, legally. She just scared him a bit.