Why am I any more manipulative than you? Or Daniel, for that matter? Here the both of you are, making your points.
Jon Stewart is nothing more than a leftwing hack who has repeatedly demonstrated his bias. And threads about his show are seldom anything more than celebrations by his minions that he has thrashed yet another subhuman from the right.
But that would involve Liberal taking responsibility for his actions. And again, it is all about Liberal.
Lordy-I cannot remember which forum I’m in.
I can’t think of any reason this should be in GD, but I’ll contribute my mite.
I think that Back in Black comes on every other week, just like This Week in God. The only reason I know the timing of TWIG is because Terry Gross stated as much in her interview with Stephen Colbert a few months ago. Go to the NPR site and link to it. Excellent, funny interview.
This is hardly GD caliber stuff, but there it is. I also think that with all the conservative punditry and the prevalence of conservative-think today, that TDS would be hard pressed to not skewer them on a regular basis. But I have seen Stewart beat up on Dems and alternative parties as well.
I think the show goes after pomposity of any form–and kudos to it for doing so.
Can you supply links to threads about those shows in Cafe Society? Can you point to the gloating over Jon beating up Hillary? Where is there a discussion of how funny his barbs are against leftwing atheists?
Jon is a host of a* comedy* show. He makes no pretense of being a journalist or commentator.He berates his audience for taking his show too seriously. His explanation of making fun of the right is that they happen to be in power now so they are the primary targets. He also makes fun of those on the left when the oportunuity presents itself. I wouldn’t expect that of a left wing hack. He certainly has an opinion on certain issues and you might call that bias. What exactly is the difference between someone’s opinion and someone’s bias? I think he has fans rather than minions. What I enjoy about the show is his ability to call bullshit for what it is. It comes pouring out of our our elected leaders and our mainstream media seems to have given up their job of calling them on it. I’d rather see it done by some dedicated journalist who does it because he actually cares about presenting the facts to the public. Until someone like that comes along I’ll take Jon and the Daily Show.
They recently had a segment the day after the Roberts nomination in which they went to Cordray and Jon asked him about the Democrats’ reaction, to which Cordray responded, “They’re outraged, Jon, they have been for weeks.”
I can’t remember the bit verbatim but Cordray went on to talk about how the Democrats believed that the President should have chosen someone that THEY liked and what an outrage it was that he hadn’t. I t was a pretty funny bit. I laughed at it, and it was totally at the expense of the Dems.
Can’t provide any links. Is that the complaint? That we don’t celebrate it when he nails the liberals? OKay. I’m seen him refer to the Dems as gutless several times. He berated some dufus Kerry quip during the campaign with an** “Are you trying to lose?” ** and recently when Howard Dean was on the show he asked if the Dems had any real or specific plan to make things better. When Dean offered flowery sentiments and slogans Stewart pressed with “Other than something that would look good on a pillow, do you have any real plan?”
I thought these were hilarious and another example of pointing out the bullshit that has become our political system. If it happens again I’ll post it in cafe just to be fair.
Happy now? 
I remember that one. Very funny. It prompted me to post in a thread about Roberts that I hadn’t recieved my righteous outrage form letter from the DNC where I just filled in the blank of whomever Bush nominated and sent it to my congressmen.
There was also the moment where every person in some sort of committee mentioned the Guantanamo Bay scandal (I think they were all democrats), and Jon pointed out that the issue at hand was about the Patriot Act, which does not apply to Guantanamo Bay (as they are not US citizens).
The Cordray segment was also good. Oh, and there was the episode a few months ago, about the filibuster issue, that he slammed on the Democrats for making a bad compromise.
Liberal, I didn’t have any view on you one way or the other before this, but now I’ve finally seen what you’re capable of doing. Please, next time if you so want start a thread about the politics of the Daily Show (or any other place), don’t show up and ruin a good Cafe Society thread for that.
I can’t answer why you’re manipulative, Liberal: that calls for speculation and inferences on your upbringing and political bias. I do know* how* you do it: you come out of right field with snarky critical comments that forcibly steer the conversation the direction you want.
But let’s not go around assuming you’re more manipulative than me, though. Catch a grip.
As to your last point: there ya go, making these unsupported charges (members of the right who’ve appeared on the The Daily Show are sub-human? Tsk, you think they’re that evolved?) while trotting out your sham of humility. I’m a Stewart Synchopant: I’m not worthy enough to be a Minion. That’s a three year waiting list last I checked.
FWIW, Ben “Cooter” Jones, who got mocked in the Dukes of Hazard segment, used to be a Democratic Rep. from Georgia.
Do minions get any cool benefits? I heard that minions for Dr. Evil get to play with the superlaser on off days.
Researching the best minion job out there
Two things: I think you are correct in the above assertion that Jon calls BS when he sees, no matter the source.
And two, although you meant it facetiously, ANY attempt to make Liberal “happy” should be strangled at birth. Even talking about it feeds the narcissism.
Liberal :
As to providing links to “prove” my statement that Stewart calls out Dems as well as Reps–I don’t need to do that. Anyone who watches more than two shows in a row can see it for themselves. Despite your best efforts, this remains (I should say all these threads remain) appreciative of the skill and talent that the Daily Show members have in delivering political satire.
The mods may have changed the forum, but the main thrust is still the same. Now, if you would like to debate the merits of TDS satire against…hmmm, we don’t seem to have any other political satire show on at present, do we? ----and just what would a Libertarian political satire comedy show look like?–whatever it may be, I’d be happy to do so.
Oh you cruel, cruel bit…wait , this is great debates isn’t it. Well you’re still cruel.
Maybe we’re debating different things. To me, the debate is about whether threads about shows that bash people for their politics or religion are really Cafe Society fare. In the bizarre Pit thread, I listed oh, a dozen or so political references from this thread that were there before I posted.
Imagine it the other way around. A thread about one of Rush Limbaugh’s shows, with posts like…
Did you see Rush hand Paul Begala his ass? I loved it! It was so funny!
Yeah, I think Begala is just speaking for all those left-wingers.
I’d love to see Rush tear Hillary a new one!
etc.
Is that about the aesthetics of the show? I don’t think so.
Rush Limbaugh doesn’t have guests.
Goodness knows that the arts are devoid of social and political content. We do the artists a profound disservice by discussing them as if they contained such horrid, distasteful things.
Point taken. But if that’s the case, then why is it inappropriate to express the opposing view? If you want to say that the Piss Christ is a benign religious statement, but I want to say that it is incindiary to the extreme, why is yours on topic but mine a hijack? Is it because ten people agree with you?
If you enjoy Rush and his point of view you are free to start just such a thread. I’m sure that kind of thing happens all the time.I don’t think anyone should be embaressed or apologetic about having a point of view and enjoying a comedy show that tends to reflect it.
As I previously stated. I enjoy the pointing out of political BS whatever the source. If Rush or Shawn Hannity, or ORielly have a valid point to make I’m glad to listen.
It’s because of the forum. If someone mentions a contempoAndres Serrano exhibition and in Cafe Society and you hijack that thread to make a political/religous condemnation on Piss Christ it’s not the intention of the OP. Why not just link to the CS thread and start your own thread in Great Debates or the Pit?
I can’t validate a hijack, particularly a deliberately provocative one. Though Lord knows I’ve hijacked a few threads in my day persuing tangentially related interests.
Ack. That should be “contemporary Serrano exhibition.”