And where is the cite that the Duggars believed, taught, or in any way accepted that?
See, this is the hop you want everyone to make. And it’s not a justified one.
You were so eager to splash blame on Josh that you quoted him as saying he asked for forgiveness from his victims, and then indignantly criticized him for failing to ask forgiveness from his victims. That is pointed out, and you shrug it off and continue. Is it possible that you’re so consumed with joy at this story that you have abandoned any interest in assessing the claims here fairly? You certainly eschewed fairness in your own recitation of Josh’s faults in apologizing.
In other words, I supported my claim. your claim, in response, was that there was no reason to believe that the Duggars supported every tenet. So I would like to see the reasons for your doubt. My reason for believing that they do support the tenets is that they have yet to denounce ANY tenet. PLEASE prove me wrong.
Jesus God, Bricker. An assumption was made. You challenged, others supported with cites, I supported with cites. You continued to challenge. We have tried to explain, that. based on every other indicator available, it is reasonable to assume that the Duggars also accepted this as the church’s teachings. And yet, I am the one who can’t grasp the problem here?
I know it’s been suggested many times, including Pit threads, but can y’all just pretend Bricker is not participating.:smack::smack: I understand I am a dedicated lurker, and it appears it is easier said than done. But taking conversations off topic with his nit picking and obsession with semantics is his thing. I don’t think he is capable of understanding his OCD style participation is not considered by most to be “on topic”.
Back on topic. What kind of repercussions do y’all think may be felt by TLC? In hind site it seems they probably knew much more than they have admitted to at this point. The internet and Social Media is full of folks with excellent sleuthing skills. I will not be surprised if a lot more negative attention is coming their way as more is discovered about what they actually knew and when. I can’t agree more with everyone’s deduction that it is likely, victim blaming is the Duggar’s default choice of response. Not only does it align with many of their stated beliefs, it is also very much human nature. Blaming the victim is often easier than dealing with the perpetrator. It is a common means of denial. Can we state that as a fact, no, but we have every right to state it as an opinion in a Cafe Society discussion of a Reality show family who has been found to have some serious skeletons in their closet.
Yeah that would be great. This is a message board. It is not some ludicrous court of law with him as obnoxious judge and jury and us as poor peons to be told to obey or be held in contempt.
I don’t think anything will happen to the network. I think the Duggars will have a home on the fundie Christian circuit but will be taboo anywhere else. It may also have a mild effect of the Reps as there are pics around of many Rep pres candidates happily hanging out with Josh.
What appears to me to be “on topic,” is the freedom to level any accusation whatsoever against the hated Duggars.
And because everyone here – or ALMOST everyone here – knows just how awful the Duggars are, it’s perfectly fine. Hey, we all get it. It’s all good, right?
And what’s amazing is I have no particular interest in defending the Duggars. I don’t know how they feel about Catholics, but it’s not impossible that they feel I’m hell-bound for my religious error.
What animates me here is that in the middle of eighty-four different fruitful lines of attack against their legitimate and obvious public positions, we somehow should just ignore the eighty-fifth attack, which confidently claims something that is nowhere in evidence.
You’re the one who goofily brought up altar girls. I was talking about abortion. And likening it to the sexual clusterfuck that is evangelical Christianity. Altar girls is a rounding error of no import. I get that you’re suggesting that even a SFC can find elements to differ from doctrine. It’s just not pertinent. I’d assume she’s inline with Church position. If she’s not, then I guess she’s No True Catholic.
On the subject of abortion. Which matters. Unlike altar girls, which has to do with Church business, and little to do with the dictates of the Jesus. Do you actually think you’re making an amazing point, or is this just you going full McCoy on me, expecting me to blubber a confession because of the pressure?
I bet she doesn’t fingerblast them in their sleep like the guy we’re talking about.
There is a church position, which is that altar girls are permissible. Many older traditional Catholics don’t like this position; many others don’t.
In short: there’s no way to know.
It’s my response to the claims in this thread that there’s no way to know that the Duggars believe that the victims of sexual assault are at fault for their assault.
