Usually the disdained targets already have massive issues with reliability and credibility. When someone’s been caught lying, or cheating, or said some easily refuted lies, they have less credibility when they make their next outrageous claim. The Duggars and the FRC are a bunch of fundamentalist shitheads with non-science views and a love of bigotry. That’s the starting point. So when they do something shitty like this, they don’t get the same benefit of the doubt that someone honest like Obama gets. They are held to a different standard because they are different.
I don’t think so. You don’t generally speak up when its about liberals. You either don’t participate when they are getting trashed or you only participate when its conservatives. I’m not going to comb through any posts, too lazy, but I will ask that if its not true, you go into the Stupid Liberal Idea of the Day and defend the next 3 dumb liberal ideas with your usual panache of nitpicking and legal semantics
I hang out there sometimes too. This is the “Sin in the camp” thing that people were talking about a few years ago. At the time we were speculating that Josh may have kissed Jim Holt’s daughter. Boy, were be ever wrong.
I wonder if this is the reason why even with a 7,000 square foot house, the girls all sleep in one room, and the boys in another. It would protect the girls at night from someone abusing them while they slept.
It is likely, considering the ages, that he at least saw some of them in diapers, and maybe even changed diapers when they were younger. IIRC, that is in part how Michelle was able to cope with so many kids, the older ones took care of the younger ones. So he, more than other young boys, probably had a good idea on the physical differences between boys and girls. So he likely knew how it looked.
If this happened in 2003, he was around 14-15, and the youngest sister born at the time was 5-6 (per Wikipedia). He was a juvenile too, so in a way I’m more bothered by how the adults managed the case than him. Now, if he does the same now, when he’s nearing 30, it will be different.
TMZ is reporting that General Mills has already pulled their advertising from the show, and TLC has canceled all planned airings of repeats. It’s just a matter of time before the whole show is canceled.
I was actually going to post that same link. Point 4 is particularly vile - Why did God let this happen? As a result of defrauding ( immodest dress on the part of the victim is suggested ) and then point 6- IF the abused is not at fault …
Some say the girls might’ve been sent to something called Journey [of / to / from?] the Heart. I’m sure that’s a female equivalent of ALERT. Barring that, I have no doubt you’re 100% accurate.
Due to the age of the person listed in the report who supposedly was behind that, some were theorizing that it was one of the grandmothers.
And tangentially, there’s the whole “Nike!” thing. When out and about in public, the girls, if they catch it first, shout that to their brothers if they see a woman who is immodestly dressed. That way, they’re helping to prevent them from sinning. It’s always the women’s / girl’s fault for “defrauding” the males. So disgusting. Not to mention damaging when something like this occurs. Then you have victims blaming themselves.
Could be, as several folks mentioned that and the fact that in the earlier episodes, the girls slept in their clothes. If so, dear God that’s horrific.
That’s a good question. Most seem to say that they feel she would’ve been too old, as that would’ve made her around 16. I don’t know. I just wonder if whoever the other victim is, if she’s the one that’s requesting the original file be destroyed. It says she’s still a minor though, so that only leaves Joy. Who might be coerced from her God awful parents doing spin control on their golden child.
Gah, doesn’t matter though. At least the gravy train is about to be over. Not so much for others caught up in their warped kind of worldview.
Politician Mike Huckabee weighs in with a bit of inane drivel in support of them. They weren’t open and honest. They hushed it up, told the girls to shut up and tried to pretend it never happened in the first place. But he’s not gay so it’s a-okay!
I agree, TLC will likely cancel the show pretty soon. They canceled Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, including not airing an already taped season, and it was because the mother was dating a child molester, not because one of the featured people on the show was one.
However, it seems that TLC would have had to already know about this. The Oprah special in 2006 was taped but never shown because someone alerted Oprah’s production company about the allegations. It seems unlikely that someone would blow the whistle then, but never say anything to TLC.
If fictional TV parents had handled this situation in the same way, the Huckabee’s of the world would be decrying the lack of morals in Hollywood. But since it is a reality TV family who has capitalized on its wholesome purity and upstandingness all these years, it is suddenly all “Leave Britney alone!” I guess it is easier to condemn the world of make-believe.
Still a bit weird that it didn’t surface before. Perhaps it was indeed because Josh was becoming more and more public that finally pushed them to tip someone, or someone finally dug it out.
If it was anything like the ‘counseling’ I was given at a Gothard facility then it was wholly inadequate. Their idea of counseling is praying a lot and having you beg forgiveness for anything you might have ever done wrong in your life. Including things that you never even did.
I agree. I think it was determined that all this went in between the early specials and the first couple of seasons. Some have suggested that they’d heard of them having to deal with CPS over it. If so, there’s no way that was hidden from TLC. But regardless, I can’t imagine that in Hollywood, one production company wouldn’t know what their hired help was doing if it was big enough to land on Oprah’s radar. I’m just glad that she did something.
Such a good point. What were these people yelling about Mama June? Were they willing to pray for her pedo ex that was coming back into those kids lives? If he’d never re-offended and repented of his actions, shouldn’t it be all the same? But you’re right. It’s nothing more than hypocritical posturing. Wonder if they’d like Josh to babysit their kids?
