Thanks. We appreciate your opinion, but if you keep going too much more, it’s going to be threadshitting, which is really frowned on here.
Well, there are kickass female Avengers, but Mantis & Shulkie aren’t exactly Waif-Fu either.
Meh!
What iconic line-up were either of them in? No knock to Shulkie but even though the Stern run is pretty damn good it’s not an iconic line-up, which was part of the point… and “this one” thinks Mantis’ time with the Avengers was just bizarre.
It’s going to suck as much as the Fantastic Four.
That’s right. I said it.
Heh, this is why I’m excited for the movie, I thought he did a GREAT job in AXM the comic series, and I’m not that much of a Whedon fan, but that one won me over. I like that at least he’s familiar with comics and respects the medium as opposed to someone like Chris Evans: “I don’t really have a history and a love for comics. I didn’t grow up reading them. But they’re fantastic for films.” -Chris Evans, Capt. America :smack:
To be fair to the man, MTCicero, if he did write the clunkiest line of dialog ever to disgrace the silver screen, he also wrote the best:
“Look what you did you my jacket. Kill him a lot.”
Yeah, but how much of a comic book geek was or wasn’t Robert Downey, Jr. prior to filming the inarguably excellent Iron Man?
And for that matter, Nicholas Cage is famously a huge comix nerd, and yet that didn’t exactly make Ghost Rider a classic of the medium, did it?
Shhhh… Don’t invoke the Ghost Rider!
And Downey Jr. didn’t need a comic book to know how to play himself. That wasn’t acting, he just showed up to work and put on a suit.
QFT, my good man. QMFT.
Iconic Schmiconic.
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It’s a movie. They can add a female character if they want to. They can change the origin. They can make new characters. They can have the team founded by flippin’ American Dream if they want. For crying out loud, in X-Men, Singer gave us a Rogue & Mystique who had nothing to do with each other & a lanky Wolverine–& it worked.
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Part of the charm of the Avengers (imo) is that it’s an institution, not a fixed group of characters. Who cares who the founders were? Putting Thor & Cap on the team won’t make it better written.
So, evs. If he wants to shoehorn the Celestial Madonna in early, I don’t really mind.
Granted, Mantis is weirder than weirdness itself, so we might mind for that reason, but I personally don’t care if he sticks a lady in there besides Jan.
ETA: OK, I exaggerate. I take your point, it’s nice to follow the mythos. And I’d actually be upset if characters were cut to mangle the timeline. I just know that Hollywood always changes bigger crap than that anyway.
Does he need to stick another lady in there? Summer Glau will play The Wasp, we all know it.
And she will be amazing.
Heresy alert: I really like a lot of stuff Joss Whedon has done (Dollhouse, Firefly, Dr. Horrible), but I’m really, really not crazy about Summer Glau as an actor. Come to think of it, most of the leading ladies Joss works with have always struck me as strangely wooden: Sarah Michelle Gellar, Eliza Dushku (although it worked as Echo)…even Felicia Day to an extent, and I love me some Felicia Day.
Give me Amy Acker or Olivia Williams over any of them. (Or Dichen Lachman, but that’s mostly because she’s H. O. T.)
“Woman, have you not foreseen that you are too marry this tree?”
I re-read a lot of my comics (including a substantial run of “Mighty Avengers”) and it seems pretty obvious that during the time time Mantis was a member, writer Steve Englehart was doing a whole lot of hallucinogenics. The whole “celestial madonna” thing was definitely a product of early 70s waaaay-out mysticism.
But that’s probably why it’s one of my favorite runs. 
Anyway, My preference for an “Avengers” movie would be to focus mainly on the long-time core characters, Iron-Man, Thor, Cap, the Pyms plus Hawk, Wanda & Vizh. But it being the Avengers, there ought to be at least background cameos by as many characters as can be fit into a frame.
I always liked the idea of the Avengers being this enormous, un-wieldly group with as diverse a group of characters as superheroes can get conflicting with each other. The type of group in which a mutant with quasi-magical powers can meet a red-skinned synthezoid man with limited ability to display emotion, and the two can bond over the similarities in their pasts (“Why, YOUR father was a maniacal terrorist who forced you to serve on the side of evil, even though in your heart you wanted to be one of the good guys? Mine too!”) I’d at least like to see shots of people like Mantis, Jocasta, Starfox & Stingray - even if the story doesn’t dwell on them.
And how about the villain? Who’d you rather see - Kang or Ultron? (Given that there are already too many heroes to choose from, assembling a whole other team of villains to be the Masters of Evil might be too much.)
You have insulted the good name of Robert Downey Jr, sir. A small sect of Live Journal users will be around shortly to egg your car.
Now there is a Celestial Madonna! Guaranteed great opening weekend box office, and that’s just from me!
The fact that you presumed my phrasing was an insult shows me your opinions on the matter. Expect the LJ Users around midnight!
Well…I suppose Downey might like being called a real life Iron Man… consider my comment retracted.