Those movie producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could make a fourth movie that they didn’t stop to think if they should.
But could they ride dinosaurs in this one…Jurassic Planet of the Apes?
Who cares? It’s fiction.
I go to movies to be entertained, not to study or learn about history.
I’ve loved my fair share of “popcorn” movies. No plot? Flimsy reasoning? Totally incorrect information? Hell, as long as it has lots of special effects, CGI and maybe some explosions, I’ll probably like it.
I was excited when I heard they were making a new Jurassic Park movie. Unfortunately, the trailer makes it look incredibly dull.
Well if they were only semi-prehensile, it could play it on a uke instead.
Could have been a whole lot worse. I remember five, ten years ago when it was rumored that it was going to be about human/dino hybrid crime-fighters (aka Ninja Turtles!) And I don’t think JP3 deserves so much derision, I thought in some ways it was better than JP2. It was lean and to the point, and a brisk 90 minutes. The second one was top-heavy and over-wrought, with illogical plot holes and clumsy preachiness.
Although this one does look like just a rehash of the original. Hard to believe its been 20+ years!
Dinosaurs aren’t interesting enough anymore, we need to make a super genetic hybrid that can kill everything. Not enough eyerolls. But other than that, I’m totally game. Let’s see some carnage. I just hope they come up with a better reason for its escape than “lol it’s so strong and it can climb you guys.” Or why they just don’t shoot it. Its tail will accidentally knock over a pylon that will disable the entire park somehow, won’t it?
JP1 is the best of course, but I find the harsh criticism of the sequels a bit much. All the dino scenes are awesome, in general (maybe not the compies). Raptors never stop being badass, even when they give them blue mascara and pin feathers.
And check it out, the original has all these problems people complain about for the sequels:
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annoying kids
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blatant hippie dippie environmental “what hath science wrought” message
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dubious science: T. Rexes were practically blind and only track motion, frog DNA instead of bird, dilophosaurus launching poison goo
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silly scenes, like the computer hacking, the lawyer eaten off the toilet, the T. Rex paddock suddenly turning into a cliff, kids outrunning raptors, the raptor exchange intro is cartoonish and doesn’t make sense. Granted, none of these top killing a raptor with gymnastics.
Is that what the meant when they said it was going to be the first 3D Jurassic Park?
To hell with feathered dinosaurs. But yeah it looks dumb.
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The hero looks as boring as shit. He’s an action star? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Part of the appeal of “Jurassic Park” was that the heroes WEREN’T Chuck Norris; they were two scientists, a mathematician, and a couple of kids the adults barely knew who were scared and exhausted and had to find their way out by their wits. Sam Neill was a perfect choice. He doesn’t look like an ass-kicker, he looks like a college professor. You could identify with them; they acted the way YOU’D act.
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“Oh we made a superdinosaur through genetic splicing” is stupid, hackneyed, anti-science and completely unnecessary. Jesus, they’re DINOSAURS. They’re already monsters, you don’t need to make them more monstery. It’s a waste of at least ten minutes of screen time.
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It LOOKS boring, and to be honest I can’t put my finger on why. There’s just something about the presentation that’s kinda yawny. It just has the feel of a movie that has Spielberg may have produced, but he sure didn’t direct it; the angles are flat, the colors boring, and shots unoriginal, or something, I’m not sure.
To hell with feathered dinosaurs. But yeah it looks dumb.
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The hero looks as boring as shit. He’s an action star? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Part of the appeal of “Jurassic Park” was that the heroes WEREN’T Chuck Norris; they were two scientists, a mathematician, and a couple of kids the adults barely knew who were scared and exhausted and had to find their way out by their wits. Sam Neill was a perfect choice. He doesn’t look like an ass-kicker, he looks like a college professor. You could identify with them; they acted the way YOU’D act.
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“Oh we made a superdinosaur through genetic splicing” is stupid, hackneyed, anti-science and completely unnecessary. Jesus, they’re DINOSAURS. They’re already monsters, you don’t need to make them more monstery. It’s a waste of at least ten minutes of screen time.
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It LOOKS boring, and to be honest I can’t put my finger on why. There’s just something about the presentation that’s kinda yawny. It just has the feel of a movie that has Spielberg may have produced, but he sure didn’t direct it; the angles are flat, the colors boring, and shots unoriginal, or something, I’m not sure.
Had a soupçon of Aliens in there. Not the worst trailer I’ve ever seen but did the CGI remind anyone else of that old game Myst?
Worse than that, why do they look even less realistic than the ones in a 20 year old movie? As An Gadaí notes, it looks like something from a video game.
In the first movie, most of the dinosaur shots were of physical animatronic full-scale models on a soundstage. The CGI was very few. In the entire movie there were barely a hundred CG shots total. It was new, so they were careful. It was limited in scope and possibility, so they spent a lot of time, money, and effort on it. It didn’t always work very successfully, so they hid the flaws behind rain, darkness, and jungle.
The new movies are almost entirely CG, with so many shots, all very complex, in broad daylight, and with the freedom to get up close and far away in the same handheld sequence, the CG is trickier, and takes more man hours, which remain as limited and expensive as ever. They have to share them out judiciously and spread them across multiple people, multiple VFX studios, on multiple continents, all with different levels of skill.
Couple that with a director who thinks the freedom of CG means they can re-do an entire sequence effortlessly, when in fact it takes a huge amount of effort as it’s often starting again from scratch, and you get some quality issues creeping in.
These are also unfinished shots, they were rushed for the trailer. Many of them will be adjusted until they’re perfect before the movie is released in six months.
Read more here, a VFX artist responded to this very question on Reddit.
Thanks for that–it explains much. Hopefully they will have things refined before the release. In that same thread, someone had brought up the video comparing the Hobbit trailer to its Blu-ray release, which was also very interesting.
Yes to all this. In the first one, Muldoon was a genuine badass, but the main characters really aren’t, and that’s why they’re awesome!
This new one felt a little paint by numbers. All the right elements, but they didn’t add up. It reminded me a little of watching Zoo Tycoon. Like I said, I can’t not see it, but I wish they weren’t trying so hard. I think a regular “dinosaur park goes out of control” movie, without hybrids or trained raptors, would have been fine.
Oddly, I have no problem with the trained raptor pack. Somebody should have made sure they imprinted on humans from hatching well before this.
But, the stands for the kronosaur aquatic show are too damn close to the pool and the thing is shown to be able to leap as high as the monorail track. No good can come of this, but they never take my suggestions for the story.
(Agreed, they did not need to create a kaiju. Any of the carnosaurs can make an effective menace.)
Well, I’m just worried it means no scary raptor scenes. The most frightening scene in the original JP, for me, was that kitchen scene, because they were so smart and also because it was so intimate. They’re small enough to go inside buildings with us! Giant monsters are scary, too, but at a certain point, they get so big and they seem more impersonal.
You guys wanting feathers just get over the disappointment now. There won’t be any feathers. This is about meeting expectations, not scientific accuracy. If you’re lucky, they MIGHT throw in a line about how they engineered the feathers out because people don’t expect dinosaurs to have them as bone to the dinosaur fans who know better but I doubt they will do even that.
Or perhaps crossing the genes with a ranid did that. It certainly fucked with their gender development.
“Yes, it’s a bug in the code, but we cannot get both feathers and a central nervous system to develop. Maybe in another few generations we can find the right trigger to allows both.”