I have something more to say. I knew from the get-go that something was fishy about your story. I believe you WISH YOU HAD, and want to know what that makes you. Kind of like when you think of something great to say long after a conflict, but your story about that incident always includes your “snappy comeback” that you wished you had said. That’s my gut reaction.
Let me say that it is the STALKING that makes me mad, not as much the lying. I have known liars, I used to lie a lot when I was younger to cover up actions I was ashamed of. I was brought up to believe it was better to lie then to admit a wrong or a mistake. I was taught that you should basically “twist” a story to your best benefit to avoid conflict or punishment.
I stopped doing that a long time ago. I’m not asking you to defend yourself here- you already have tried. I’m telling you that if you do this IN REAL LIFE, you need some help. If you find that you embellish stories to the point that they are untrue, if you find you are too ashamed to admit the truth, even when it’s about a mistake or error in judgement, GET HELP.
That’s my honest, from the heart advice. I, for one, appreciate your apology, and know well the feeling of shame that goes with being caught in a web of lies. The easiest way to avoid it is to tell the same story to everyone- the truth. Now you know, and for what it’s worth, you should see how pissed REAL LIFE friends get when you get caught in a lie- or a spouse or signifigant other. Take this as a lesson and learn from it.
Zette
(damn, that anti-psychotic medicine I’m on is really working too well)
The first paragraph is supposed to read:
I don’t believe you approached that woman at all.
I believe you WISH YOU HAD, and want to know what that makes you. That’s my gut reaction.
Although I doubt you’ll be gone forever - it’s a common occurance for someone to bitch and moan and say s/he is never going to post again, and then blammo, two weeks later s/he is back on the board.
I’m also joining in patting myself of the back with the other posters who are good judges of character as one who saw through your bullshit waaaay back on page one.
When you come back, please remember that I, SaxFace, am a full-fledged yuppie. So please, automatically hate me.
I’ve kept up with this thread with great interest. I’ve been reluctant to post because others were stating so eloquently what I was thinking.
Those of you who only know FF from this incident or some MPSIMS-type posts do not realize how deep his hatred is toward “rich” people, people who work hard and save, people who have a balanced middle-class or upper middle-class lifestyle, people who want to leave an inheritance to their children, or businesses that make a profit while keeping our economy churning. Of course, “yuppies” are met with particular disdain.
In fact, I believe FF’s entire purpose on this board was to present his class-warfare opinions and try to get people to hop aboard his very bitter ship. I for one, do not believe for a minute this whole mother-daughter thing. It is very obvious to me that he found a way to cast his judgement and resentment on someone who has the gall to live a certain type of lifestyle. I think he was expecting a cadre of posters to jump on board. Some even did.
The poster who likened FF’s behavior to a kid who sees a BMW and cravenly keys it for no other reason for the lifestyle it represents, was right on the money. See this strange, sad, person for what he is. A product of a consuming resentment that has caused him to exhibit the pathetic behaviors that have driven this thread.
Yeah, that’s the way I read it. (I’m the guy that posted about keying a Mercedes.)
In and of itself, being a class warrior is not a terrible thing. After all, FF is not the Unabomber. It was just a mean prank on his part. I myself was pretty unattached, alienate, and disaffected at about that same age. As far as I was concerned, all the upper- and middle-class Philistines could burn in hell.
Naturally, my opinions changed when I got my piece of the pie and became one of those damned yuppies myself. But I still remember the old days…
In other words, I don’t necessarily see any particular harm in FF being a member of the Young Radical League or whatever. That stage of life usually passes. Even the misogyny (the choice of victim and means of punishing her) can be outgrown once he realizes why he’s doing that sort of thing.
But the ease with which he lies to people, his belief that people can be used so easily, and the gross stupidity of his lies are all cause for real concern. He’s never going to get anywhere in life if he keeps up that stuff.
I would have had a lot more respect for him if he had simply said, “I hate yuppies, and I played a good-old-fashioned mean-ass prank on one of them today.” That sort of thing is just youthful stupidity, and I can always forgive that. But inveterate liars are a big problem. You simply can’t trust anything that comes from them. All you can do is keep them on a tight leash or, better yet, chase them away altogether.
Oh, Lord. Hasn’t this gone on long enough? Will someone please close this? Too bad it wasn’t closed 2 pages ago, before Freak could dig himself into such an inane mess.
I think I may have been lying the whole time, including the last few posts, and this one, but I’m not sure. I’m not sure what happened, and I’m not sure why it happened. And I’m not sure what, if any, of what I’ve said here is true. I remember all of it, but I don’t think any of it happened. I believe everything I said, even the parts that contradict the other parts, but I know that none of it is true. I hope I didn’t really do it, and that I was just in some fantasy world, but I don’t know. Something’s wrong with me, and I’m not sure what. I hope it’s just because of the massive amount of hallucinogens I took recently, because maybe then it can be fixed. I’m afraid, because I can’t trust myself anymore. I can’t trust anyone anymore. Because anything I say, anything I hear, has to go through my mind first. And now I don’t know if my mind is working anymore. I don’t even know if it ever was working. I always knew I was weird, and I liked to think I was a bit crazy, but now I’m worried that I might actually be psychotic. And that’s a really terrifying thought. I don’t want to be crazy anymore.
Don’t believe any of what I’ve said here, including this post. I have to take a hiatus from here, to figure some shit out. I’m going to tell my GF to reconsider coming here, at least until I know what’s happening with me. I quit my job. I’m going home, and I don’t think I’ll leave there until I’m sure I’m ok. I’m just glad that, since this is the internet, I won’t pose a threat to any of you. I don’t think I’m the type that would hurt someone, I’ve never even hit anyone before. But I don’t know anything for sure anymore. What if I have a dream where I hurt someone, and it turns out to be true? I won’t know for sure. I couldn’t live with myself if I hurt someone, It’s hard enough to live with myself already. Hopefully it’ll all be resolved, and I can start posting again. But for my sake, and your own, don’t believe anything I say, or have said, ever again. I’m sorry I put you all through this. Wish me luck.
FWIIW if you are still reading Freak, I think your biggest problem is immaturity. I think you started a thread that you didn’t think through and then when it started crashing around you, you tried to fix it by creating a larger lie. Before long, it snowballed and you were buried by your own lies.
I hope that everything from your prejudist attitude towards those unlike you, to your actions toward this woman (whether they were real or only made up), to your lies, has opened your eyes and will make you think twice if something like this ever comes up again.
Although some have agreed that you leave the board, it doesn’t matter to me if you stay. There are posters here who I really dislike - A LOT! There are others who I think are full of shit most of the time. There are others who make my skin crawl. There are others I didn’t like at first and now I think they are great (Kellibelli and Homer for instance). Those I don’t respect or like are pretty easy to ignore (okay, maybe a snide remark every now and then when the urge hits). I don’t care one way or another if they are here. It takes all kinds. Just don’t expect things to be the same if you decide to stay.
As disgusted as I am with Freaks actions, I agree that the thread should be closed. He understands he made mistakes (although I am doubtful he is seeing the big picture), he said he is leaving, others have made it clear that they are pissed, and now the vultures are just picking at the bones. It’s ugly.
Oh,please! Freak,I’m proud to say that I never liked you. (I’ll dig up some threads in a minute)
Do you really expect everyone to come running with sympathy for you? You continue you to lie, and lie, and lie. Performing the same action repeatedly and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity. Go commit yourself. Preferably somewhere without internet access.
Moderators? Is there any way perhaps to verify if this is actually Freak making these posts anymore, and not someone who has his password? By checking IP’s? I mean, this self-destruction of Freak is absolutely surreal.
So now it’s “A dream! A hoax! An imaginary story!”? :rolleyes: Uh-huh.
Didn’t Phaedrus try this routine? I seem to recall a series of posts where he got into trouble, claimed to have been found wandering around in a daze by his neighbor, had no idea why he’d posted, maybe he had mental problems!!, etc.
Except for the bit about hallucinogens. That part’s new.
And, frankly having been around people who’ve used halluinogens, Freak’s posts sound far too lucid to explain away through drugs. For me, I’m assuming that his first version was more-or-less true.
RUFFIAN – “Sheesh, “Love is forgiveness”…:::smacking forehead:::…” No, as we all know, love means never having to say you’re sorry. (HA!)
FENRIS – “Joan Collins with a wire hanger.” That’s Joan Crawford, darling.
MODERATORS – I will personally mail you ten dollars, American, if you will shoot this thread in the head. Could someone please tell DEAD HORSE he has a pick up?
