Just seen Iron Man 3 [OPEN SPOILERS]

And who definitely should have gotten it for Chaplin but was robbed when they gave it to Al Pacino for a mediocre performance in Scent of a Woman. I mean, I like Pacino but to win an Oscar for that?

But I digress.

You know, the man’s been clean - or at least, has gotten into zero trouble - since 2005. Not only should you him some slack, but your jokes are woefully out-of-date.

I know he’s been clean but that doesn’t guarantee against a relapse.

PS: It’s all a joke.

Whatever excuse works for Cap, use the same one for Black Widow, as she’s in Winter Soldier.

  1. Yes - Their DNA was altered to basically regenerate almost instantly. This obviously means you can perform much bigger/better physically. Then heal.
    They could get hot by focussing the energy in one spot I guess. But if they took the wrong mix, they’d blow up.

  2. They were savvy. The leaders were some of the smartest guys around. It’s not unthinkable they had the skills (and definitely the funding) to create an elaborate system that the US government couldn’t figure out.
    Tony didn’t care at first, that’s why he didn’t bother with finding them. Only when it became personal did he decide to find them (and he did shortly after!)

  3. Overheated his systems I’d say. Or he passed out from the heat?

While of course the suits were bad ass, I think I have to say my favorite action scene was when [spoiler]Tony attacked the house with his makeshift gear. It’s always good to see his improvisational skill.

Also, I didn’t hate his interaction with the kid. I usually hate kids in movies.

Despite what he says, Tony is suffering from some major PTSD.[/spoiler]

I strongly dislike Gweneth Paltrow. In fact, it’s bordering on irrational. But, for some reason, I love her as Pepper Potts. When she’s in that role I find her incredibly attractive. Only in that role, though.

They stole a joke from Machete. In Machete Machete attacks a household and wipes everyone out because he’s badass. When he’s about to kill the last guy with a weed whacker made of knives the henchmen throws up his hands and says, “you know what? Fuck this. I quit.” He then hands his gun to Machete and walks away.

Or The Order of the Stick.

It works both ways. It’s been established in the Iron Man movies that Stark has given a second armor suit to Jim Rhodes.

So why didn’t Nick Fury call him in when Loki and the Chitauri attacked Earth?

Haven’t seen it yet but it is doing very well according to this:

‘Iron Man 3’ passes $300 million internationally, smashes opening day record in China

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/05/02/iron-man-3-international-box-office-china/

I really enjoyed it it. The title should probably have been “Tony Stark” since the movie was more about him than Iron Man and that is fine by me. RDJ is so good in the part I enjoy just watching him play it. It wasn’t the Avengers, not many movies are, but I liked it better than IM2.

Just saw it; excellent story and exposition, for the most part, but in the end I felt completely overwhelmed by the gimmicks. What was confined to one or two scenes or shots in prior IM movies turned into a blizzard of… near nonsense.

I mean, if every fragment of an Iron Man suit is a powerful weapon, the final sequence just armed every gang for 100 miles around. Every ten seconds someone was picking up (or being jet-handed) another shooty piece. It went from cool to ordinary to ridiculous to gimme-a-fuckin’-break.

I’m really in the minority, because I thought it was as bad as #2 but for different reasons.

I thought the overall plot was really good, and there was a moment early on which was my favorite of the whole movie.

Under attack, Tony calls the armor components, not to armor up and kick ass, but to wrap around and protect Pepper, leaving himself vulnerable. This was a great twist and displayed a heroic depth to Tony’s egotastic outer layer.

I also liked most of the Air Force One staff rescue except at the end where at least one if not more of those people should have had their arm ripped off from Iron Man hitting the air brakes. For a movie that showcases superstar scientists, they sure don’t know how momentum works.

But in general, there were more holes in this movie’s plot than in any of Tony’s battle-damaged armors.

I “love” how apparently any yahoo’s back shed has the requisite equipment to service and repair the bleeding-edge technology of the Iron Man armor.

I really @%# hated every scene with the kid (except the one where Tony blows him off and drives away). His presence was totally unnecessary to the plot and really felt like the hand of Disney took control of the rudder of the movie. And the internal logic was so inconsistent: kid comes into his garage with a potato gun to scare off a suspected burglar? And he doesn’t recognize Tony fucking Stark? Except he’s carrying a paper that has him on the front page?

And the convenient coincidences that littered the Tennessee scenes? Tony just happens to find the one bar where some drunk lady he’s never met before happens to have top secret files to hand them off to an Extremis minion shows up at that very same time?

And Stark can make it onto what should have been the most heavily guarded compound in America with nothing more than an air gun and some X-mas ornament grenades? For all of the ways Stark is amazing, he is NOT the Black Widow.

And how did the Iron Man armor come back online when Tony was captured? Are we to believe lil’ inventor jr. was fixing it in his absence? And how did some components manage to escape the garage while others didn’t? And this marvel of modern technology had trouble smashing through an old worn-out wooden door?

Sadly, (Rhodey / War Machine / Iron Patriot / another Iron Man) felt shoehorned into the story. The whole Iron Patriot repainting thing? If all he was doing was rescue and TV appearances, I get the benefits of the optics of the American Flag paint job. But sending it out on assassination missions? That’s the last point at which you want to call attention to the “Made in the USA” brand. Also, we know that AIM provided enhancements to the Iron Patriot suit before the movie takes place. And I was assuming that it was non-operational because the Prez couldn’t do anything with it when he was strung up. But then Rhodey was able to hop back into it and save the day? If I was AIM and had access to the suit, and was planning some elaborate strike, I would have locked Rhodey out of it for good.

(Also, regarding AIM, would it have killed them to give us at least one worker in a yellow jumpsuit? I don’t need the beekeeper helmets, but if you’re going to use the organization as part of the story, it would be nice if it wasn’t in name only.)

And the legion of Iron Man armor drones at the end: Stark was in bad need of some tech through the whole middle of the movie, why not call up just one of those suits beforehand? After showing up in time for the climax, we do get a few scenes of the Hulkbuster model doing something unique, but mostly these armors are treated like undistinguished and disposable suits that are forgotten about until the moment when Stark needs to jump into one. And if Jarvis isn’t part of any single suit, where is its CPU? Where is that voice coming from?

And how did all these Extremis subjects who served their country as soldiers somehow become eeeevilllll anti-American terrorists? Seriously, WTF? And I get why Extremis-enhanced people can be super-regenerative, but how the hell do their clothes not burn up in fire?

And the brand placement: holy shit! The most egregious example was when we literally had two fucking tech logos (Sun Microsystems and Oracle, I think) competing for attention against one another, it distracted from the actual scene happening in the middle of the frame.

And why did Stark want to destroy all of his suits? I get that Tony wanted to refocus his priorities to his girlfriend, but he’s been suffering from PTSD from the threats of gods and aliens and now this new world where Extremis superpeople are walking around. You really don’t want any countermeasures against these freaky supermen? Nah, let’s just blow 'em up.

Argh!

(FWIW: I’m a lifelong Marvel reader, dating back to the late 70’s)

Oh, and one more illogical thing about the thing with Mandarin…

If he was supposed to be an stupid actor who didn’t realize that his “acting” was perceived as real terrorist threat, what did he think when he blew the brains out of the Roxxon president?!"

Too long to quote, but the suit in the garage was charging, that’s what his watch was for, to know when it was ready. He also asked how far the suit location was to tell how long it would take to get there. The other suits weren’t available because his vault was buried under rubble. When he calls someone near his house he hears they’ve uncovered the vault, that’s when the suits come out.

Thanks, actually. That helps with a couple points.

I liked it, was definitely entertained, but I’m unsure if this movie is better or worse than Iron Man 2. It was good but weird. Started out looking like it would be a grim superhero movie then turned into action comedy (on purpose, though). The only problem I had with the film while I was watching was how poorly they defined the abilities of the Extremis-infected people (ok, regeneration and heat, I can buy that. Spitting fire? Super strength? Huh?) but there’s a ton of questions that arise when thinking more about it.

[spoiler]

  1. If the Mandarin is an actor working for AIM, why do they try to kill Tony Stark in the beginning when they need him to fix the Extremis?

  2. Why would AIM be showing up in Tennessee to grab the files from the dead soldier’s mom at that point in the story? I can understand why they want to keep them from Stark, but they think Stark’s dead at that point.

  3. How did all the suits survive the initial attack on his home, and why didn’t he use those suits later on?

  4. How does Iron Patriot’s suit get disabled just because a bad guy places his heated-up hand on his hand? (The same doesn’t happen to Iron Man later). Then the bad guys try to cut him out with a circular saw? And why would the suit have an auto-eject based on heat?

  5. They tried to handwave the execution of the Roxxon accountant as CGI and green screen, but uh… really?

  6. What was the point of Rebecca Hall’s character?[/spoiler]

As a reader of Marvel Comics for more than 40 years I only have one complaint: Why weren’t the bad guys (AIM) dressed like beekeepers?

That wasn’t shown on the broadcast; it was a closeup of the Mandarin’s face. We don’t know what might have happened off-screen, with or without the Mandarin’s involvement.

It was fun, but loud. Jesus Christ, but that was a loud movie.

Loves me some Dale Dickey. Woman looks like she could serve you up some fine smattered, smothered, and covered at Waffle House. :slight_smile:

I might have missed something, but was Tony driving to Miami before he knew he had to go to Miami? I kept wondering why he was in Chattanooga, given that it’s on the opposite end of the state from where the little boy was.

The word “pussy.” But said to and used of a 9-year-old (give or take), so YMMV.