Kansas lawmaker goes full-on wacko

But Kansas has been trending towards the looney right for longer than that. For example, they stopped teaching evolution in the high schools in 2005. Personally, I don’t think it’s been the same ever since Dorothy and Toto left.

Indeed, there’s a whole book on the subject – What’s the Matter with Kansas? It was published back in 2004.

I moved to Kansas City in 1992 from Northern Virginia. I spent a lot of time in Wichita, Tulsa and OKC. The culture shock was staggering.

Casual racism. Prayers in the office. Tolerance for sexual harassment and misogyny. Antisemitism everywhere. Stuff that in an East Coast or Chicago office would have not have been tolerated.

And I was working for a blue chip global technology company with 50,000+ employees.

And they rescinded the teaching of Intelligent Design in 2007 and reinstated the teaching of evolution.

No doubt, Kansas has plenty of conservative wackos and ignorance at every turn. But they haven’t stopped teaching evolution in the schools. At least, not according to your own link.

Oh, for sure this state had been tilting rightward probably since the Reagan years. But 2010 was a massive shift to the far right. That was also the year Kris Kobach was elected Secretary of State and the attack on voting-rights was underway. It’s been a disaster ever since.

The moderator was junior modding! You should report him for that! :slight_smile:

FTR, I don’t think ‘newbies’ should be talked to condescendingly. After all, I am one.

You’ve been here over a year. While that doesn’t make you an oldbie, I think you should at least graduate to a plain bie.

As long as you don’t call me Boo-bie.

[rushing for the nearest exit…]

When I lived in Kansas things didn’t seem that wacko. That was in 2000 though.

The KC “suburbs” or real Kansas?

Even when the board does automatically generate a preview of a page, it’s just the first couple of lines, and often cuts off in the middle of a sentence. It’s worth posting your own summary, so folks know what you, a real human, think is noteworthy about the page, rather than a computer’s best guess.

And I don’t know about Kansas, but around here, all that’s needed to be a substitute teacher is a bachelor’s degree and a background check (which this guy will fail now, but presumably would have passed before). When a sub proves to be unsuitable, it’s very easy to “fire” them on the spot, so less care is taken in the original hiring.

Middle of farm country, the closest town was Sedgwick but even that was a significant drive. I still remember how disgusting it was when cattle was being moved and there was powdered manure in the air all the time to inhale and taste. Gah!

I later moved to Newton which was out of farm country, you could actually see another house from your house. That was more of a suburb, not too far from Wichita.

Tangent, from that link: “Governors and education agency leaders in Iowa, Missouri and Nevada have stopped requiring substitute teachers to have earned at least 60 hours of college credits or an associate degree.”

So, in Iowa, Missouri and Nevada, even before the COVID crisis, you didn’t even need to be a college graduate, or have any teacher training: just a couple of years somewhere doing something.

further, parallel to the other long orthogonal thread above: when I tried to post the quotation above, I got “can’t post media links”. I trimmed down the quotation (which was a good move anyway), but somehow discourse accepted one of the links first time, and not the quotation of it.

I know it’s Kansas so who knows what will happen, but if the DA is any good he should give full credit to Samsel the he had staged the battery. Using the more formal legal description “premeditated”, of course.

It was written by a mod and was a helpful post on how to possibly avoid problems in the future, though. I don’t quite get why it comes across as condescending. It seems more to be a difference in expectations.

Given that I’ve noticed that posts with just an infobox have resulted in thread closures, I do think this might be a subject we need to revisit in ATMB, to establish how the “explain your link” rules should change (if at all) given the new software. It seems different users have different expectations of where the line is now.

Also, as a bit of tech advice: while I’ve seen the preview show an infobox, that infobox always shows an error message in its contents. And the actual post always just shows the bare URL. Maybe there are some situations where this doesn’t happen, it would probably be a good idea to check one or both of those.

I’ve made my own infobox several times.

Absolutely. I’m seeing a lot of otherwise decent posters just post a link now. I’ve reported a few of them, to no avail. I’d like a firm rule that something must be in all post in addition to a link. Even if it’s just “this article discusses that.”

When I was a student many years ago, a substitute teacher was basically a 1 or 2 day babysitter. Their main job was to take attendance and keep the kids from being rowdy. Educationally, at best, they’d assign some reading and worksheets based on whatever the absent teacher had left. In no way were they expected to answer questions on the subject matter or actually teach.

Some 20 years ago, my brother the Army vet tried becoming a substitute teacher in Northern Virginia and found they required a few college credits in education. He already had a degree in economics, was pushing 60, and had absolutely no interest in going back to school just to learn to teach.

What did he expect the job to be like?