Speaking of the Texas talk of secession Olbermann’s smack down of the Texas governor for that kind of talk was a classic:
That I’ll give you. 
Has Olbermann ever been arrested with someone else’s Viagra in his suitcase?
No, what unites them is that they are self-serving hypocritical blowhards. It’s funny that the only argument that people can come up with to defend Olbermann is that he’s not as skilled at it as Limbaugh. :rolleyes:
Nope, nope, that is not it either…
Must. Try. Harder.
Nope, that was not my only argument also, but thanks for playing.
See post #41.
Thing is, whether KO is obnoxious and self-righteous or whatever, he is mostly telling the truth. The Rushbot? Not so much.
This whole thread is a bald eagle abortion.
The truth = What elucidator agrees with of course.
I don’t understand this. Surely everyone agrees with what they think is the truth? I’d find it pretty hard to agree with something I consider a lie, in all honesty, and pretty hard to disagree with something I thought was a truth, too.
What lies do you agree with?
In this case, 'lucy is simply pointing out that Olbermann is at least factually accurate. His conclusions from the facts might be tendentious and often overblown, but he at least isn’t making up the facts themselves.
I hear Conservatives speak about how Rush Limbaugh speaks the truth also. More than likely MOST of what each of them says is true. We overblow the whole, “The other side is lying.”, meme. All serious partisans think their party is the forces of good and the other is the forces of evil. Whatever. It’s all cheesy bullshit. Keith Olbermann is an obnoxious polemicist, Rush Limbaugh is an obnoxious polemicist. I don’t watch either.
I’ll watch Rachel Maddow cuz she’s kind of hot and not nearly as obnoxious. 
Ok, then here’s a challenge for you. Please give me ten examples of Rush Limbaugh straight up inventing the facts. One rule though, each example has to be on a unique topic. Like you can’t come up with two related lies about Waterboarding or two related lies about WMDs in Iraq. Ten unique lies. It should be rather easy. If you can do that easily with a little bit of Google-Fu then I’ll give the idea that Rush is A LOT more dishonest than Olbermann. I’m already willing to believe he’s a ‘little’ more dishonest, but really they are both sensationalist TV personalities that represent everything that is wrong with the media IMV.
I was thinking about Hannity, actually. I haven’t listened to Limbaugh in years, and make no claim one way or the other about his factual accuracy.
ETA, here’s a list of Limbaugh lies from mediamatters. From the first hit on a Google search of “Rush Limbaugh lies.”
Surely the difference lies in the fact that those listeners probably have a different idea of what the truth of situations are? That’s kind of the thing with political viewpoints, after all. The idea that most of what each says is true relies on the idea that mostly Olbermann and Limbaugh are in agreement, and that’s really not the sense I get from hearing about them.
Your point to elucidator still doesn’t make any sense to me. Who agrees with things they consider lies? How on Earth would you agree with something you think’s a lie - by the very nature of considering it a lie you must disagree with it.
My point is that I often hear people considering an honest difference of opinion to be a lie. Or people thinking that someone who agrees with them on a lot of things is a good honest bloke.
I clicked on every link on that page and they were all 404 errors.
But while we are grabbing links for highly partisan sites that happen to be the first google link under So and So Lies.