Key to a successful Dopefest...

Well, about a year ago, I acually tried to put together a Dopefest.

I was there, as was my mother and her boyfriend. My (now) wife.

Zenster, since banned, Snoooopy and a few others managed to show up.

Zenny wrote a glowing review.

I personally thought it was awful, and a dismal failure. I had one venue, and no idea what to do once that venue became less interesting.

So, I’m asking now that it’s been a year and I’m thinking of trying another someday…

What are the keys to a good, memorable Dopefest?

Thanks!!!

Food and alcohol. The two I’ve been to (and the one I’m going to) all center around getting us fed and/or lubricated, in the social sense. I’ve found just sitting and talking to everyone to be quite entertaining.

Well, I had that in mind. And normally it works, if you end up with enough people. The problem in my mind was the venue… a crowded English style pub that had a live band that I didn’t know was gonna be there.

That, and there was only limited conversation possibilities. Most of us (a broad spectrum of folks) the only thing we had in common was Dope and a like of some decent booze… sigh

Well, I’ve drunk-proofed five or six row houses in my day, and prepared apartments and houses and even back yards for gatherings of Internet Strangers. I compiled my experiences in a writeup on Everything2 - the writeup is called “Preparing for a House Party” and is in its original formatting in the above link. For convenience, I’ve reposted it below:
Disclaimer: The Management will not be held responsible for any charges brought against you or your party guests in any court–local, state, federal, international or military–any damage that results to you, your guests, your possessions, your car, your souls, your french fries, or your adorable dog.

These are by no means definitive rules for preparing your abode for a shebang. These are not the things Mr. Rogers will tell you if you call him up and ask “how can I throw a party for all my friends?” These are not official in any way. These are some guidelines I gave czeano when he threw Nature Trail to Hell in 3-D: A Very Appalachian E2 Gathering (OF DOOM!), which I learned the hard way after four years of drunk-proofing a row house in Baltimore for a cappella parties.

The Place

First, you need to drunk-proof your place. If there won’t be any alcohol, dancing, caffeine, or frolicking at the planned party, you may skip this step. However, once a party starts, it’s difficult to stop; it will gain momentum. Always plan for the party to go one notch louder than you’re expecting.

To drunk-proof a house, look at it through the eyes of a two-year-old with a hammer, and/or a Jack Russell Terrier. Walk from room to room asking, “what in this room could make a big mess?” Fix it: lock it up, hide it under a weighted tarp, place it in cold storage, wrap it in pillows, pour it into a 55 gallon drum and send it to Utah–just don’t leave it out. Repeat as needed. You’ll find in the course of cleaning up that a certain amount of off-limits area is needed to store the dangerous/tempting/toxic stuff.

Signage for doors is essential. OFF LIMITS and THIS IS A BATHROOM and THIS IS NOT A BATHROOM and NO SMOKING INSIDE OR I’LL KICK YR ASS and NO PUDDING BEYOND THIS POINT and It would not be a funny funny joke to lock the sleeping people in the basement p.s. please and Aquarius are all good signs for a party. Write them in large non-blurry letters as unambiguously as possible on paper that contrasts with your doors. Affix them with Scotch tape, painter’s masking tape, gaff tape, or something else that won’t leave a mark.

Place liners in all of your trash cans. This facilitates a quick change–some cans will fill up in a few hours, others won’t get any trash at all–and also ensures that nobody has to scrub out trash cans later. Keep spare liners in the trash can so if someone moves a full bag, they won’t have to come ask you about trash bags and get sidetracked.

It’s important to have this done before the guests arrive–the first few arrivals might be cool with helping you set up while the party spins up, but don’t count on it. Be prepared.
The Stuff

Once you’ve drunk-proofed and put up a bunch of signs, you may notice that your house looks somewhat sterile. Don’t despair. There are lots of things you can place in the path of partygoers that will hold their attention better than Aunt Edith’s Faberge Egg. Feel free to adjust this list to fit your budget, crowd, and timespan–for example, if it’s ten people and nobody’s staying over, don’t bother with too much extra toilet paper; just make sure you’ve got enough. Improvise, adapt and overcome:

* deck(s) of playing cards
* a giant box of Crayolas and a stack of paper
* name tags
* smoking amenities--if you provide clearly marked ashtrays (even Coke cans with "ASHTRAY" written on them in marker) then smokers won't improvise with your household goods as much
* toilet paper in abundance
* frisbee(s) or aerobie(s)
* cheap Sam's Club towels
* Rubik's Cube, magazines, tennis balls, juggling balls, etc. This may be in the bring-your-own category; the important thing is that, at 2am when the dancing stops, what to people have in their hands while they talk?
* Stuff to sit on to facilitate conversation. Cheap chairs, lawn chairs, pillows with throwaway covers, lawn blankets, air mattresses, couches, futons... ANYTHING, but make sure people can sit in clusters and do the talkie-talkie-talkie GTKY thing that makes a party. Unless you have a very big house, you don't have enough seating for everyone already. Go get some. 

The Consumables

Food, drink, dessert, snacks, munchies… all of this may be required at your party. If people are coming from out of town, they will want a cold drink when they get in from the road. You’ll want coolers and ice in abundance. If you have a freezer, empty it out in the week before the party for ice storage. Figure one cup-ful of beverage ice per person per 2 hours (most people don’t ice beer or liquor), and additional ice if you’re going to fill a cooler or a wash tub for cans & bottles.

Food is tricky, and all depends on the party. A barbecue grill is great because you can marinade before the party, fire it up at will, and cook until everyone is happy or the meat’s gone. If you’re not blessed with a grill, consider a filling dip, with beans, meat, or soy, and lots of chips. Your goal in preparing a big meal is to have something that everyone can eat (take kosher and vegetarian lifestyles into account) that you don’t have to make for everyone individually. Ponder a buffet-style meal, or a pot luck if it’s going to be a long-term shindig.

Munchies are a little easier, and you can’t really go wrong. Well, sardine-and-garlic potato chips may not be everyone’s favorite flavor, but Opus likes 'em, right? Right. Well, for everyone else, anything with peanut butter in it is nutritionally dense–not necessarily healthy, but filling. A jar of peanut butter and a few bags of pretzel rods go a long way the day after a debauch. Alternatively, let me recommend a drum of pretzels; not sure why, but drunk people love 'em. Depending on how well you know your guests ahead of time, clearly label foods with nuts, dairy, or any unusual ingredients in them.

Food, munchies, ice: tough. Drinks: simple! People will almost certainly BYOB to a large party, to share their tastes in alcohol. People will trade beers, mix exotic home-brewed hooch in your kitchen, and generally take care of getting themselves drunk. It is, however, a good idea to provide a base. One large bottle each of vodka, rum, whiskey, and perhaps bourbon, as well as 2 liters of each of the major soda varieties, is a good starting place; improvise from there depending on time, budget, and guest list. As in “Say Anything”, it helps to have a weapon of choice. You don’t have to make Purple Passion or The Blue Drink, but a punch bowl can save you alcohol–if that’s what everyone is drinking, then people may be less inclined to drink straight personal doses out of your stock.

The Blast Radius

I hope you haven’t started without considering what to do when the party winds up, and what to do when it winds down. Beforehand, you’ll want to have a broom & dustpan, a mop & bucket, rags (figure one or two per room), Lysol or similar disinfectant, and a few extra trash bags. Rubber gloves may be useful for the squeamish or if there are a large number of strangers at the party. Notify your neighbors that you’re having a party at least a week in advance, and if you think they’d enjoy it, invite them to come. It might be polite to offer to buy them movie tickets or a gift certificate to a nice local place for that night, so they don’t have to be there during the peak. This may also soothe their nerves and keep them from bringing the polizia down on you. Signs clearly identifying your house and a map showing where it’s okay to park are good things to put on your front door.

Be aware that when the party winds down, some guests will almost certainly be willing to help clean up–be ready to lead this activity. If they say, “what can we do?” and you don’t have any ideas, they may not help unless they’ve got mad situational awareness and initiative (roll d10). With the cleaning supplies you prepared, you won’t have to think twice–sweep, mop, take down signs, do a sweep for trash. Your guests, grateful for the party you threw, will be glad to help.

One last thing: because you’re hosting this thing, it may be more stressful than relaxing from your perspective. Find one or two friends who have their shit together, whom you trust to make snap decisions in your absence, and ask them to keep their eyes open during the party, or even cover for you while you step onto the dance floor or what-have-you.

Tristan wereyou the one that threw a Dopefest up here in Sac-town or am I mistaken? I was not aware of that one until after it happened. Oh, how I long for a Sac-fest…or whatever the heck you would call it up here.

Well, Jurph covered a lot of ground for a party at one’s home, but luluBahrain’s comment covered a lot:

Your 'fest organizing thread has to have an unambiguous title clearly indicating that it’s about a Dopefest and what city it will be in. Then you have to keep it active. It really helps if at least one other person trades off with you on bumping it.

We’ve had quite a few here in Houston, and for one memorable one I posted 60 times to the organizing thread. Daily bumps for the last two weeks beforehand.

Here are some other things I’ve observed in the course of helping to organize 'fests. Post a suggestion and keep the question open for a couple of weeks, noting people’s calendar conflicts and ideas for gathering spots. Know your venue - scout it out and note whether it offers reasonably priced food and drink, an environment amenable to conversation, does not require visiting scary parts of town, is kind of centrally located and allows minors entry.

Then post the date, time and place - you have to decide or the thread may trundle off to nowhere. In cases where calendar conflicts were too many, we have a few times done twofers, where we met on two succesive weekends.

That’s for your average local gathering. The really big New York, Chicago, etc. affairs take more effort. Perhaps Billdo, gundy or someone else who’s had a hand in the background of a megafest can offer some insight in that regard.

It’s usually taken about 6-10 weeks to generate a crowd of 8-12, sometimes more, sometimes less. We did have one come together in a couple of hours once. Emails in the last few days help, as well. I’ve emailed people I didn’t know who’d indicated interest on the thread.

Hope that helps - you’re the one, make it happen. Good luck!
So, where and when? You never know when I’ll feel like taking a trip (if several out-of-towners indicate interest, you’ll probably want to shoot for a Saturday, and somewhere near hotels).

Indeed that was me. It was an abysmal failure, in my opinion.

I intend to better it. Not sure when though… soon, I think.

If it’s within two hours (give or take) of San Francisco, I’ll be there. I can probably vouch for at least one other Doper that I know in real-life, schedule permitting. She’s been itching to go to a Dopefest for a while now.

Well, I’ve been to several of the MAD fests, and had great fun at all. My first one was Dope-a-Ween at the Jonathan Chance estate (until the sneaky bastard upped and moved to Ohio :wink: ); he said the secret to a good party is simple: invite everyone, and have plenty of food and beer. It needn’t be expensive for the host; if you make it an everyone-brings-something, that seems to work just fine. The beer coolers (at all the fests I’ve been at that were at someone’s house) were outside on the porch, and seemed a natural congregating place. There was music, but also places where you could get away from the music. I think if you try this formula, you should be able to have a successful fest. Unfortunately, I’m on the wrong coast; I love DopeFests!

So far, I think the biggest detraction I’ve got right now is a lack of a house to host a Dopefest in… my apartment, while decent, is just not big enough for more than a few folks.

So:

1-Locate several possible venues, that should appeal to a broad spectrum of potential Dopers.

2-Post plans for a Dopefest, 2 months in advance. Appeal to local dopers for other ideas and such.

3-Say Hi to Opal.

4- Have more than one place in mind… ex: Go from a bar and grill to a restaurant, to enjoy coffee or something and more talk.

5-Try to con another person into hosting… hehehehe…
Ok. I’m going to start planning mentally now. Hopefully by the fall, I will be in a position to actually put this together.

I really hope you do get one together. I am the worst planner in the world, that’s why I don’t volunteer to host it. I have a house but it’s in Oak Park :eek: :frowning:

But I’d be the first one there if you ever do get another one together. So, at leat there would be two of us. And I will converse with anything with a pulse ( sometimes even with out) the trick is to get me to shut up.

Being a Rancho resident back in the early 90’s, I can understand your fears… hehehe…

Have no worries. We had one of those at the last dopefest too…

I’ve been to a number of small Dopefests, some at my house, some at other people’s houses, and some at restaurants.

I think it helps to have at least one Doper there who is a good people-person–someone who can keep conversation going, make people feel welcome, etc. Alas, I’m generally not that person, although I’m better at playing that role when I’m in my own home.

If you’re as bad at this as you say, that shouldn’t be a problem, right? :wink:

Hell, I had upwards of 25 dopers in my 1 bedroom apt. for XmasDope a few years back, it’s not a huge problem.

If people tell you they had a good time Tristan, you should believe them. The one and only fest I ever hosted was a bust. I wanted people to come to Brooklyn so I made reservations at this nice Spanish restaurant.

The staff at the restaurant fell apart. Some people (me included) didn’t even get dinner. Then we went to a bar. People said they had fun and I believed them.

Then there was a big one in Manhattan. We went to this place and they sorta, well, hated us. There was no alternate plan. Oxymoron shoved I dunno how many people into his studio apartment. That was also fun.

We are planning one in Las Vegas this year, and your suggestions are good.

I briefly attended the last Las Vegas Dopefest, and it was really good! Maybe it had something to do with the fact that everyone seems to want to come to Las Vegas and there were a lot of out of towners, plus it is always nice to have a few locals point you were to go, and more importantly, where not to go. I do agree, alcohol is mandatory at any location, especially for that all important first night for people to open up a bit and start talking. You would be amazed at people who will have 5000+ posts, and yet be too shy to come over to the Dope table until they have had at least one drink.

I personally think it is best not to overload the plans…find a centrally located bar or restaurant, and let people know that will be home base. From there, have a list of places within walking distance, or a short drive. Then for the next day, have some options - outdoor stuff, or a film fest, or whatever local things are happening.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug the upcoming Las Vegas Dopefest! I just got to meet LVGeogeek and Seldon (two other locals here) and they are
both on board. They are both a lot of fun and even if only the three of us show up again, we are bound to have another great time!

So just in case anybody is interested in coming to Las Vegas, we should have our act together soon regarding dates and activities, etc.

I had a lovely time, and as a special bonus, no one threatened to punch me!

First of all, don’t have it at your house. That way if everyone has a bad time, it’s not your fault. (Plus, I think it’s kinda creepy to be in a stranger’s house.)

Second of all, I think you had a small turnout because there are only a handful of Sac dopers. Have the fest in the Bay area and you’re more likely to have a better turnout, because of people being able to take public transit, etc. (And there is other stuff to do.)

Third, don’t hem and haw and say “I’m maybe thinking of having another, possibly, if I feel like it, probably fall, maybe winter, I dunno.” Say "I feel like: drinking/bowling/crying/jitterbugging/buying Sea Monkeys/etc. Who wants to get together at [place] on [date] at [time]. Then you will have about a dozen or so people who are available argue incessently about what’s wrong with the place you picked, and bicker about the time, and if you’re lucky someone else will step up and say “How about:” and everything will be done. When you show up at the place about half the people who said they’d show up will show up, half won’t, and there will maybe be a handful of lurkers who were too scared to commit but braced themselves and came anyway. I almost prefer the smaller get-togethers to large ones, as it’s more intimate and you can actually talk to each other.

Re: “we didn’t have anything in common except the Dope and drinking”

Well, what else is there?!?!

Eating :smiley:

Seriously, another way is to read threads when somebody advertises a dopefest and see how they are doing it (especially the small to moderate sized ones, they do not require as much logistics expertise as the big ones [Chicago, NYC…] :slight_smile: ).