Maybe you should just turn yourself in to be a research subject so students can see what someone with no compassion is like.
I have to wonder about this persons frame of mind. For one throwing a kitten out of a moving vehicle is VERY dangerous not only to the said animal but also to possible pedestrians or other vehicles. What would he have done if it had hit a person and killed them as well as the kitten? Another thing I have to be concerned with is how he’s going to treat his 5 month old if SHE gets on his nerves or he decides he doesn’t want HER any more. Will he throw HER out of a moving vehicle? The man obviously has issues and needs therapy…
samarm, there are several examples in this thread of mass murderers who started early in life torturing and killing animals. In my post to the thread, I listed several examples.
Happy reading!
Exactly. An animal is not a piece of trash to be thrown out like that. And no, I don’t think he’ll become a serial killer, or that he should be locked up for the rest of his life.
But it seems to me a very cold and cruel thing to do. It makes me wonder how he treats others, because he doesn’t seem to think about whether or not he’s causing something pain.
At the very least, he’s a lazy, irresponsible SOB. At the very LEAST.
I know you didn’t intend this to paint a funny picture, but this made me laugh!
So you’ve decided that this guy is a potential child killer? I find it amazing how you can come to that conclusion despite not knowing anything about him or the precise circumstances in which he was in.
Using your reasoning, if I’m driving along and a bird is sitting in the road and I don’t swerve to avoid it, and the bird is killed, does this make me a potential child killer? You can argue that the birds life doesn’t count for much - I would argue that a cat’s life doesn’t count for much either, at least in comparison to a human’s life.
I just want to restate that I think killing the kitten was wrong, and that the appropiate punishment seems to have been used. My main pont in all of my posts has simply been that killing a cat is not as serious as killing a human.
Wow, 3 posts in as many minutes!
alohaaloha - thank you for the cites.
Guin - I agree with you last post.
He may not kill his child, but it sounds like he wouldn’t be very considerate to her, (or anyone else, for that matter).
Well, the guy was in Detroit, that shows his mental condition right there.
He name sounds a bit foreign, prolly has nothing to do with the uproar seeing as how this is Detroit.
He is obviously too stupid to bringing up a child because to ring the kittens neck, stick in in a Wal*Mart sack and put it in the dumpster behind his building would have attracted no attention at all and it would have been good practice or getting rid of body parts when he went Big Time.
I think they should jail him and put his kid in a foster home and then make sure the kid knows what a scum bag his dad was and never be allowed to visit or know anything about him ever again.
Absolutely no argument on any of this from me.
Well, yeah.
Do I think he’s a monster? I dunno. I don’t know the guy.
The one thing I do know about him is that he apparently pitched a live kitten out a moving car window as if it were an empty beer can.
This does not give me a very good picture of the kind of guy we are talking about, here.
Hmm–I’ve had to shoot feral cats before when I was a hired hand on a farm. In fact, I’ve probably killed over 10 cats and a handful of wild dogs too. Am I proud of this? No, I don’t think much of anything about having to shoot them. Does this make me a maniac? Did it increase my susceptibility to maniac-type thoughts? Don’t think so. This guy is obviously a lazy POS who should be punished but the whole incident hardly seems worth the hysteria.
What the hell is this supposed to mean? He lives in Wixom which is a suburb of Detroit. And you must be fucking your sister since you’re in Arkansas.
As to the OP, I must be getting cynical because on the scale of animal abuse this is pretty tepid. The last one I saw that actually shocked me was a guy who pulled a baseball bat out of his truck bed and bashed in the face of his dog because she jumped on him when he got home from work.
This guy is a jackass, irresponsible, and stupid, but I’m not sure he’s as evil as some of the rest of you seem to think he is.
Objectively, yeah, I doubt many people would disagree that killing a kitten is not on the same level as killing a person.
But subjectively, the kitten is a small, soft, cute, helpless being that did not and cannot hurt this guy, nor can it defend itself. That’s what’s horrible about the killing, is that a person can so callously kill a harmless and utterly defenseless creature like that. At least if he were trying to throw a person out the window, that person could try to fight back.
I have almost as much disgust for this type of person as for a murderer, because this guy kills something that can’t fight back.
Nor from me.
Mockingbird,
Since in your worldview “not thinking killing a cat is as bad as serial murder of humans” equals “no compassion”, I see it’s a waste of time attempting to have a rational discussion with you. I shall avoid it in the future.
Oh dear.
Is *Mockingbird playing the self-appointed arbiter of Acceptable Human Reactions to Terrible Things again?
:rolleyes:
I said nothing of the kind.
And when have I done that in the past, you obnoxious jerk?
Kat, you absolutely nailed what bothers me about animal abuse. Animals, unlike most people, cannot fight back as we can. (Well, SOME can, but most cannot).
A kitten is completely innocent, wasn’t hurting anyone, and the guy just changed his mind and tossed it out because he was a lazy asswipe.
It makes him a sicko AND a coward. Why not pick on someone his own size, if I may use a cliche here.
Samarm,
Your comment about it having been ‘just’ a kitten, and therefore not as important as killing a human, is missing the point.
I don’t think it’s been suggested, even vaguely, that killing a kitten is worse than killing a human.
It is, however, the belief of many people, myself included, that all life, is of equal importance. To you, maybe, a kitten is not as important as a human, and that’s just fine. But not all humans feel that the simple fact of BEING a human accords one more worth than that of other lifeforms.
I would be no less outraged if the man had thrown his five-month-old out of a moving car. Granted, many people would see that as worse than hurling a kitten out, but I see either scenario as EQUALLY sadistic and unnecessarily cruel.
I can also understand why you can’t comprehend why someone would cut family out of their life over animal cruelty. But I can. There is absolutely NO excuse for being deliberately cruel to animals, and if someone in my family were willfully and knowingly abusing animals or killing them for entertainment, I would unhesitatingly cut that person out of my life.
My question for you is this: How would you react if a relative of yours was being deliberately cruel to an animal? I realize that plenty of people simply do not give animals the same regard as people, but I’m not talking about someone neglecting their dog by leaving it outside during a thunderstorm once or twice. I’m talking about people who would set fire to a cat’s whiskers just to watch it run around yowling. If that doesn’t upset you enough to take a moral stance against it, fine. But I couldn’t live with myself if I turned a blind eye to such acts of depravity. People who would do things like that, willingly if not eagerly, disgust me, and their being related would not compel me to ignore the seriousness of such behavior.
Now, on the subject of killing kittens versus killing chickens:
Again, you missed the point. This is not an issue of killing something cute and furry and adorable versus killing something that’s widely recognized as a food staple. Rather, it is about the needlessly cruel killing of an animal that was acquired to be a pet, versus the humane killing of an animal intentionally raised to be food. (Although I DO acknowledge that some people are more upset over the killing of cute and furries–I, however, would be no less offended by what that man did had the victim been a chicken, mouse, snake, puppy, rabbit, ferret, turtle, or any other living creature).
If you proactively acquire a cat–or ANY animal–for a pet, you are obligated to care for it for the remainder of it’s natural life. If you find that you can’t, for whatever reason, it isn’t as though hurling it out your car window is your only recourse. You can give it to a friend or a neighbor, or take it to a shelter where it will either be put to sleep HUMANELY or adopted by someone else. There are also a lot of shelters nowadays that do not euthanize cats, although many of these are overfull. If you absolutely see no option other than killing the cat, there are much more humane ways to go about killing it than throwing it out the window of a moving car. Hell, shooting it in the head is preferable to that. There simply is NO EXCUSE for what that man did.
I agree, capital punishment is a bit extreme, but then, being a pet owner myself, of both dogs and cats, I can understand the emotional response behind it.
You want to stir up a legitimate controversy? How about the fact that so many people are appalled at the notion of killing dogs and cats for food, while yet seeing nothing wrong with killing cows or pigs for the same?
Ever been to a chicken processing plant? It ain’t pretty. I’d rather be thrown out of a car window.
BTW…“proactively acquire a cat”?:dubious: