Klobuchar drops out and endorses Biden.

Why do you think this? The party boss system died in 1968 and hasn’t picked a nominee since. I’ve seen this thought before. I personally don’t get it.

I disagree. I’d say Trump is unusually bulletproof for an incumbent. Nothing sticks to him. As far as his base is concerned, the guy could rape a nun on the White House lawn, and his base will blame the nun for provoking him.

I don’t buy that Bernie would do better in the general election than Biden. The other Democrats pretty much handled Bernie with kid gloves to date. The Republicans have a warehouse full of oppo research on Bernie and the money to saturate television and social media with it.

If you’re a Democratic Senate candidate in a purple or red state, who would you rather have at the head of your ticket- Bernie or Biden? Personally, I’d prefer not to have to continually defend the head of my ticket being a democratic socialist. Who would be more likely to have a Democratic Senate behind him- Bernie or Biden? If Bernie is nominated, not only would we see him lose and have Turtleman get his 9 right wing Supreme Court justices, we lose democracy itself. And if by some miracle Bernie did win, NONE of his proposals have a ghost of a chance of coming to fruition. All we’d get would be his wish list that the Grim Reaper in the Senate would gladly let languish and die. Jesus, this is serious shit. We HAVE to nominate and elect Biden to have any chance of getting sanity back in government.

We were burned once already when Hillary lost, so some of us are still overly cautious / pessimistic about the current race.

Keep repeating: Our nominee is not Hillary… our nominee is not Hillary.

He’s unusually bulletproof with his base, I agree. But his base is less that 50% of the electorate and he is also unusually loathed by his opponents. Both unshakeable loyalty and intense revulsion translate into energized voters. It just remains to be seen which side will mobilize better.

I don’t know about what exactly you are speaking, but I agree with the concept as far as health care. I maintain the Bernie won’t get anything done on health care if he sticks to his plan, even if he does get the House and Senate. Too many people, even Democrats, like the system as it exists. He won’t have the votes for radical change he wants.

His base is loud but small.

Any normal president with this economy would be at 60% approval. He has never broken 50%.

It’s simply that the Bernie crowd is a haven for conspiracy theorists. Everything that doesn’t break his way, it’s an establishment plot. When things go his way, it means he thwarted a plot. Last election when it was one on one, the Dems were trying to coronate Hillary. This time, the Dems purposely “flooded the field” to fuck with Bernie, natch.

I don’t think that the Bernie supporters are wrong. The DNC has clearly decided that Biden is the best choice to beat Bernie and is putting a lot of pressure on candidates to drop out and endorse him. I think if the Coronavirus situation continues to worsen, Biden has a better chance against Trump. In times of chaos, people revert to what is familiar and safe. Radical changes can wait for more secure times.

You’re in on it, aren’t you?

Amy and Pete set to endorse Uncle Joe:

Amy might have helped Biden more by winning Minnesota.

If Joe can unite Amy and Pete then there is no doubt in my mind that he can unite America.

:smiley:

I’m sure he’ll perform just as well as he did every other freaking time he ran for President. He’s a horrible candidate and Donald Trump is going to beat him like drum.

His campaign slogan should be “I suck, but whatcha gonna do - vote Republican?” Which seems to be the DNC’s motto.

I was, and still marginally am, for Bloomberg. But Bernie would be my second choice.

Let’s see what happens, I’ll shut up about it in the meantime. I propose one of us will be wrong?

Guess Biden promised Amy Attorney General. Pete probably gets Commerce or Labor. or Treasury. Not that it matters since Biden can’t win.

While I neither support nor reject your observation, I would like to point out I am not one of them. The party wants who they want, and that person gets the nod. I don’t know. Maybe they’re afraid of another Carter.

I think the super delegates probably say Sanders cannot win enough black votes . But in the deep south not sure Jesus would win if he ran as a Dem.

who the hell knows? I would have bet my house in 2016 that Trump couldn’t win.